Reference the way over MSRP quotes on the Pan America. As has been mentioned, Harley is releasing the PA to dealerships in a three tier arrangement. So any dealership with current inventory is in Tier 1, and some of those might use that seemingly exclusive blessing as an opportunity for an "we've got it, pay up if you want to be among the first" mark up. A month ago I stuck a deal for a Gauntlet Gray Special with spokes and ARH at the corporate quoted MSRP at a local to me Tier 3 dealership. Because they're Tier 3 they were happy to have the business at MSRP. I probably won't get the bike until June, but since I was their first Pan America customer I'll get the first sales unit they get.