Heart of the West ADV 'Roundabout'

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by byways, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue Supporter

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    I was wondering the same thing
  2. Little Bike

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  3. ABuck99

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    Counter suit and argument by the BDR folks is spot on. Echos my sentiment. A key argument to me is the timeline of word mark registrations- backcountry is late to the game( many others registered years before) and seems that they would have a weak case if folks stood their ground.
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  4. bikebuster56

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    I sent a message to discovery.com letting them know I would never be a customer of there's again because of their actions in this case. Actually got a nice reply saying they would pass it along to management cause they were monitoring customer concerns and reactions.
    Would probably be a good thing for everyone to voice their disdain about the actions to management of the company. Or maybe (probably) they just shitcan it. Worth a try.
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  5. Son of MotoPolo

    Son of MotoPolo The mountains are calling...

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    I did the same. Also lit up ADVrider about it. Doubtful they'd jump in the fray, but I really see it as corporate greed taking over the public domain.

    No one owns the backcountry, and anyone who tries to own it never understood it. Lifetime boycott of backcountry.com for me. They've shown their true colors.
  6. a57m2000

    a57m2000 Been here awhile

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    Enwild (formerly Backcountry Edge) <support@gearnews.enwild.com>



    Are they the victims of bc.com too?
  7. DYNOBOB

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  8. Ladybug

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    I've been following this and will not be a customer of Backcountry.com - To me, it shows a lack of integrity and it doesn't matter that they backdown on their suit. For me to ever consider buying from them they will have to do HUGE damage control and still I don't know that I would trust a company like that.
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  9. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

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    Yes
  10. Outwardbound

    Outwardbound Been here awhile Supporter

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    Is HoW still active? Has COVID stopped all trips this year, or is nobody posting?
  11. byways

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    Indeed it is still active!

    And it's gratifying that so many travelers are eager to breathe virus-free air (we hope) safely and responsibly ... on HoW.

    But this comprehensive thread seems overly long now, and repetitive at times. So I've relied more on word of mouth, LOTS of direct website contacts (via backcountrybyways.com), and phone visits.

    Still, I shall be out on the route soon for my annual inspection tour, so do stay tuned, and please send along questions an inquiries using the "Contact Us" button at backcountrybyways.com

    Tony

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  12. byways

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    Not long ago ...

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  13. WU7X

    WU7X The Old Fart

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    I can no longer do this via bike (SWMBO nixes due to age). So six of us have signed up to do it via four 4X4 rigs starting in early Sept. We'll be coming together in Idaho Falls. The early support we have received from Tony has been exceptional. His tracks are spot on. Most of us have also highlighted the tracks onto Benchmark maps for the various states we will be going through. We'll see how much we can cover in a leisurely 3 weeks this year, and will complete it in 2021. Being retired helps! I'll get back to this once we're finished to give the ADV gang an idea of what we retired old f*rts thought. My initial impression is that Tony's HOTW stickers will find a place of well earned pride on my rig.

    Would love to have done it in my hack, sob sob. :kurt
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  14. byways

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    Thank you so much, WU7X.

    I don't speak often on this forum about SUV overlanding enthusiasts like yourselves ... those who've migrated from the rigors of moto travel as time has marched on; others of all ages who just prefer it; young families looking to build memories before adulting elbows childhood away; couples who now share what once was the guys' thing; and still others (like myself) who just enjoy both modes of exploration and adventure.

    But I will say now that this season, and last, have brought change.

    I've never before had so many SUV travelers preparing for HoW, including some who did portions of it a few years ago on a moto and are returning now to finish it up in their Jeep, 4Runner, camper-mounted Tacoma, etc. It is gratifying to be able to provide a service that is accessible to so many of varied interests, backgrounds, abilities ... and stages in life.

    There is no time limit on the track-file license; yet there is on life. Yours needn't be lived solely on two wheels, or put on a shelf because two wheels aren't practical any longer ...


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  15. armith

    armith Been here awhile

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    As someone who currently does not own a dual sport.. I have often thought a little overland prep on the Subaru might be a great alternative.
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  16. byways

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    I see Subes everywhere! Yet I have no experience with them.

    In wildland travel, reliability and ground clearance are the big issues with any vehicle. Subes certainly are reliable, but I wonder about ground clearance.
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  17. reg26

    reg26 Been here awhile

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    I can tell you that my 2018 Subaru Outback has 8.7 inches of ground clearance. My daughter has an 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It has 8.6 inches of clearance. I rode my KLR on the CO BDR and could not believe how many Subaru's I saw. I wouldn't do it with mine but was very surprised.
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  18. armith

    armith Been here awhile

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    Well the nearly 9" clearance may or may not be ideal.. typically its long nose and tail of the Outbacks that limit approach and departure angles.

    2" lifts, appropriate tires, and some upgraded skidplates to help protect the belly are fairly common. I have seen them hold their own on stuff that would be beyond my skill.. Its certainly no Jeep, Land Rover, FJ cruiser. Just have to be mindful of its limits.
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  19. reg26

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    Like I said. I would NOT do it with Mine
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  20. byways

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    That last sentence says it all ... for any vehicle.
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