Heart of the West ADV 'Roundabout'

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by byways, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. Snake Oiler

    Snake Oiler If the world didn't suck, we would all fall off Supporter

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    Froggs are okay but not for the bike. You almost need GoreTex if you want to keep half way dry.
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  2. byways

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    Summer is the season for monsoonal storms that roll up from the south. June is typically a wet and muddy month, with lingering snow blocking roads here and there. July through August can be stormy and generally unsettled, with wildfires. Mid-September tends to be drier and more stable, although nights can be cold. But the mosquitoes are gone :clap

    So far, it's been a scary-dry fall and winter. Little to no snow to be seen.

    Oh ... and substantial gear discounts are available to licensed H.o.W. clients in need ... :-)
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  3. Paul Penton

    Paul Penton Trails Are Us

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    There are three levels and prices of Frogg Toggs and you definitely get what you pay for.
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    miken0vf Been here awhile

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    I'm submitting this week for time off next sept/oct, if approved (I'll know in jan and im low on the seniority pole), I'll be looking you up Tony.
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  5. byways

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    The "operator" will be standing by ... :bmwrider
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  6. miken0vf

    miken0vf Been here awhile

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    Anyone done the HoW 2 up? I found the sidecar but what about 2 up on a big bike? I searched the thread but didnt see any.
  7. byways

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    I don't know of anyone, but people don't always tell me how they're doing H.o.W. It shouldn't be particularly difficult to do on the primary loop, although the optional segments generally are more rudimentary.
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    miken0vf Been here awhile

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    Good times ahead for sure!
    Sept 19-Oct 10 2021, I'm HoW bound!
  9. Rips Millar

    Rips Millar capt. mediocre

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    @byways, we can only go during the kids summer break, which starts about june 10 and goes to about mid august. What would be our ideal time? I'm on a big bike and I melt in the rain. :wave
    Also what kinds of last minute detouring can we do to try to stay away from the weather?
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    Oh boy ... a weather question ... :hmmmmm

    June typically is a wet and muddy period in the Intermountain West -- HoW country. Snowdrifts can still block the way in higher shaded spots on north-facing slopes.

    Some sections can be impassable in June and July due to mud. Those sections are red-flagged, but they can change. For consistently mud-prone segments, bypasses are included where they are available. Or just look at the detailed optional paper map that Benchmark Maps publishes exclusively for HoW travelers. In the 21st century, alternates are often available.

    I do include a lot of optional and alternate routing in HoW. Ultimately, you just have to see what it's like when you get there, but if it's been rainy regionally, you can expect mud. Be cautious, not bold.

    I typically recommend against June for those reasons. That said, June of '20 was pretty good.

    July and August can bring rain, sun, wildfires, heat, blue skies, smoke, etc. Early to mid July can avoid fires, which often worsen as summer progresses. But in terms of weather, I will risk advising that in your circumstances, schedule the trip as far into August as you can.

    The West is in a drying trend overall, so 2021 could see a dry summer with fires. Regardless, we'll be monitoring conditions along with everyone else ...
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  11. Rips Millar

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    We're gonna go the last 2 weeks in July and hope for the best, light winter, no fires, and a gentle mist just before we get there to keep the dust down...hahahahah
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    Don't worry too much, Rips Millar, for as I have long said, there is always something new in HoW ...

    In '21, HoW travelers who encounter too much rain- or wildfire-related difficulty can request a complimentary "Plan B" network of thoroughly documented, detailed and exceedingly beautiful wildland routes -- with both camping and lodging -- that are not far from HoW. Like HoW, it is ideal for both moto and SUV travel.
    It has always pained me when travelers abort due to stormy weather and impassable roads :muutt, which together are a major bane of ADV riding. So this coming season, when conditions turn sour, H.o.W. travelers will have available a backup adventure on roads in the Rockies that are less impacted by precipitation than most in the region :ricky.

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    I tested this alternate on a few 2020 travelers. It worked. By season's end, a good number of them found it rewarding enough in itself to warrant a return visit this year ... :thumb

    This is another example of the kind of prompt, personalized and direct support I strive to provide every season, to every HoW traveler.
  13. Rips Millar

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    thank you sir!!
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    When are you going to be offering recovery service? Lunch on the trail? :lol3
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    :hmmmmm ... I have a trailer, ramps, tools, tow strap, portable air, 12v refrigerator, collapsible table :dukegirl ... So, just maybe ...
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    Get on BMW Road Side Assistance program list and you could be in business.
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  17. Rips Millar

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    @byways

    Hey just found out you were a Mendocino guy back in the day....i have some property in Potter Valley, love it there. Figure this thread could use a springtime (soon) bump...
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    Indeed ... We were married and lived in Calpella for four years, in a cottage at the north end of Lake Mendocino. Our daughter was born in Willits. Potter Valley was such a special place then! I hope it hasn't changed too much. I was the crime & courts reporter for the Ukiah Daily Journal, and my wife was the children's librarian. My last meal in Ukiah before leaving for Idaho in '85 was with Tim Stoen, former attorney for Peoples Temple and confidant to the late (by then) Jim Jones. Many fond memories of Mendocino County, but for the summers without air conditioning ...
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  19. thor63

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    Hey Tony,
    I may have let a little history slip while chatting wit Rips. To anyone considering the HOW, Tony has been awesome. Great to talk to, routes and info are as described (maybe better), just plug and play. I just received my route and obviously haven't hit the trail, but looking over the info and scanning the computer (g-maps & g-earth), it all looks very well done.
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    A group leader keeps a wary watch on a HoW traveler ...

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