Heidenau K60 tires

Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by markymcd, Mar 17, 2009.

  1. bumbee800

    bumbee800 Been here awhile

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    The front TKC will last the same as a Rear k60. My front TKC will last the length of 2 tkc rears which is about 6000km x 2= 12000km on a f800gs.
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  2. M N B

    M N B would rather be riding

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    I think you dropped a zero...
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  3. ABeef

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  4. huckleberry

    huckleberry BACK ROAD BOMBER

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    Sooo wood works how was your trip? and how are your tires holding up?
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  5. WoodWorks

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    I'm not quite done yet. But I did make it to Antelope Wells yesterday morning. I'll post a full evaluation of the tires once I get home. But bottom line: I've put about 4,000 miles on them so far, on all kinds of surfaces and at all sorts of speeds, and they've outperformed my expectations. Details (and pictures) in a couple of days. But I don't think this bike is ever going to see TKC-80s again.

    David
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  6. huckleberry

    huckleberry BACK ROAD BOMBER

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    just what i needed to here thanks! Now all i have to do is get some:clap
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  7. WoodWorks

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    I just got back from a trip from Oregon up to the Canadian border in Montana, down the Continental Divide Trail to New Mexico, and back. I had mounted the Heidenau K60s (140/80-17 rear, 90/90-21 front) about a week before I left. The ride was a total of 4846 miles, of which ~1800 was dirt/gravel/mud/sand, ~2300 was high speed Interstate highway, and the rest was two-lane, rural, paved roads or around town.

    The tires performed magnificently. I ran them through just about every surface you can imagine, except snow and ice. (Though on the higher passes I could have done some of that too!) They never lost their grip, or gave me a scare, and I was thrashing them pretty hard. I was carrying a full load, with Caribou side panniers, a duffel bag, tent, sleeping bag, and once had two extra gallons of fuel in a Rotopax canister mounted on the rear rack. Temps ranged from 38°F to 105°F, and there were a couple of days of torrential downpours.

    Before I started, they looked like this:

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    with about 1/2" tread on the rear, and 5/16" on the front.

    When I returned, they looked like this:

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    with about 1/4" tread left on the rear, and 3/16" on the front.

    That's after 5000 miles of hard riding with a heavy load!

    Though I've never had TKC-80s on the F800GS, I did run them on my old R1100GS and VStrom, so I have some comparison. The Heidenaus were significantly more sticky (and quieter) on pavement, especially on wet pavement. On some of those mountain roads I was waaaaay over at high speeds, and never felt a twitch. I would say that there's no difference in their grip on gravel and dirt. About the only place where I think TKCs may have a very slight advantage is in sand and mud. And boy, did I hit some mud in New Mexico:

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    Though I seriously doubt that having TKC-80s there would have made any difference at all in my ability to make it through. That stuff was like wet bread dough, and quickly clogged the tires.

    I am seriously pleased with these tires, and I expect that they will last as long as my original Battlewings did, if not longer. IMO they're the best compromise tire for this bike that I know of. You'll be able to go anywhere with confidence. And they won't break the bank or wear out too fast.

    Two big thumbs up from me. :thumb :thumb

    David
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  8. M N B

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    Sounds like you're getting great mileage from them and they performed well. I have to wonder at the quote, though, because I burned through my Battlewing front tire in 3600 miles. The rear had some tread, but the front was toast. Very unusual, fronts usually last about twice as long as a rear.
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  9. markbvt

    markbvt Long timer

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    How'd you manage that? I've got about 10,500 miles on my front Battlewing and haven't hit the wear bars yet (changed the rear at about 6k miles just before leaving on a trip, but that rear could have managed another 2k miles).

    Is it possible your front brake was dragging or something?

    --mark
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  10. M N B

    M N B would rather be riding

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    I ride kinda fast and usually with sport bikers. I live less than 90 minutes from two major race tracks (Infineon and Laguna Seca), although I don't ride track, many people I ride with do.
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  11. eakins

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    1/2 of your rear tread life for 5000 miles...very nice
    should be able to get atleast another 2-3000 more outt that, maybe more.
    for a tire that tire that does great in the dirt, that is awesome.
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  12. WoodWorks

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    I got 8000 miles on the rear Battlewing, and the front still had ~1500 miles left on it when I mounted the Heidenaus.

    David
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  13. wiseanhyzer

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    Thanks for the report WoodWorks.

    Just ordered a set from MotoAmore.
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  14. eakins

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    yeah but those are refered to as deathwings for a reason.

    the BIG picture to focus on with these K60s (especially the rear) is will they provide almost the same traction as tck-80 (at the aprox same price, hopefully less) while providing 2x the life?????

    this is the first 170-17" tire to split the (traction) difference between tck-80 & tourance/anakee,etc.
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  15. eakins

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    has anyone gotten a 150-17" shipped to them yet???
    the time for availability should be now.
    if so what kind of prices?
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  16. M N B

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    IIRC, it's the TrailWings that earned that designation...
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  17. War Hammer

    War Hammer Evil Monkey

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    You are correct. BattleWings have no pretensions at being being dual sport ties.
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  18. mlyamkaw

    mlyamkaw Drill Baby Drill

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    Front and rear shipped to my door, $318. No tax for me. The prices are on their website, just add shipping and tax if you are in Cali. I've got 400 miles on mine so far, and love them. About half dirt, half street. Going for about a 2000 mile ride next week, half of that dirt. That should tell me a lot, although I am happy with them now.
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  19. M N B

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    ...no more than any other dual sport tire. MFGs don't seem to understand what dual sport is. A 40/60 tire is a Knobby (TKC)? I think the Heidenau and Sahara seem the closest to what I think of as a dual sport tire (not that I'm any kind of tire expert, mind you).

    I thought the BWs did fine off road. Sure, they sucked in mud. No surprise there. Hell, the TKCs didn't do very good in mud, either and they're way more dirt oriented. The BWs had excellent grip on pavement. No complaint from me there at all. And they got the job done on basic off road. Sounds like a decent tire to me. Ideal? No, but I doubt there will ever be an ideal dual sport tire and since everyone's needs and concept of what ideal would be are different, there's little chance of that happening.
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  20. Claudellvonhop

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    Must have been one hell of a trip... I can't wait to read the ride report.

    I'm on paved >80% of the time, but the B-Wings just won't do for offroad... Are the Karoos I just ordered a mistake?
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