Hells Angels

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Frank Sosa, Sep 19, 2008.

  1. cevquit

    cevquit maphead

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    last year I was out on the FZ1 on hwy 198 halfway between coalinga and hwy25, late in the day ,6:30pm on a sunday .
    I stopped to have a smoke at one of the few turnouts, I was there for a few minutes when an old guy on a OLD ASS hd rode up, stopped and asked I needed any help.
    I replied no I'm good just having a smoke,
    he said I'll join you, and got off his bike, when he did I saw the Angels patch on his jacket.
    He said he broke down on that very stretch of road one time, years ago, aand ended up walking most of the night before someon finaly stopped and gave him a ride.
    So he always stops now if he see's a lone motorcycle on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere.
    We chatted for a few then went on our way.

    To contrast that was an event that happened a couple weeks earlier while going out on the KTM.

    I had just gotten to a very good NARROW TWISTY and 1/4 mile ahead was a bunch of theses guys
    "'Im no criminal, I dont really even ride much more than 2 sunday afternoons a month...'
    'But when I do LOOK OUT! Cause Ima pretend criminal. "

    Complete with skull masks, Stalhelms and all, and a couple of guys with white tennys:lol3 :lol3


    Anyway this road is so narrow and rough, and no place for a HD, that they'd let me by:wink: .

    Well no, for 4-5 miles every time i tried to pass one them would swing wide into the other lane and put the block on me.:huh

    There were so many of them I couldnt get by the whole bunch in any one straight.
    It was almost rediculous at how hard they were try to keep me behind them as at time they were down to 15mph :cry on a road i average 55 on ,but i didnt want to die in one of the many blind corners so I played their game but was picking em off one at a time forcing myself into their group.

    When we got to a place where there was a hard left into a long straight where you could see about 1/2 mile, I squared the corner off early dove into the dirt on the other side of the road cutting the whole corner off by a couple hundred feet. As Im cutting through the dirt at 60 I pulled along front few riders who were flipping me off.:lol3
    I could see their hogs jumping all around as they tried to speed up on the rough road and stay ahead of me.:wave so I waved as I passed them in the dirt on the opposite side of the road, and I made sure I backed it in back on the road and threw a bunch of gravel and dirt on to in appreciation of their fine riding ettiquete.
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  2. Frank Sosa

    Frank Sosa Been here awhile

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    Thanks for all the responses. It has been entertaining to say the least. I don't doubt that HD riders and most HA members don't want beef but remember they cut me off so it just caused me to wonder if I broke a rule... Though I'm not a part of any organization I'm confident I can hold my own. I don't get annoyed very easy especially by HD riders except for the ones who are obviously weekend riders with brand new gear and brand new bikes hogging the road when they don't know how to drive. I guess to each his own when it comes to curing the age old mid life crisis but unfortunately this ilk seems to be the majority of HD riders these days. I remember back in the days when you saw an HD it was usually always a counter culture type, maybe a fuzzy beard no teeth having, ride or die, honcho. Not the case anymore. I've never seen so many men driving harley's it seems they are everywhere now.
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  3. turbo_bird

    turbo_bird I'd rather be riding.

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    Passing a group can be fun.
    I passed a group of about 8 GS's while riding my XR650 in the ditch this summer. The lead guy gave me a thumbs up as he passed me, when I saw the rest of the group going by I figured I'd crank it up a bit to see if any of the bikes had ADV stickers, a couple did. That was near Ft St John, BC. Anyone here? Hopefully nobody trying to track me down by my plate number. LOL
    Kristian
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  4. Kenny M.

    Kenny M. Been here awhile Supporter

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    When I started riding BMW's in the early 90's I pulled into a rest stop for a break. There was abot 10 HA doing the same. This was during the Redwood Run and ther were a lot of HD's in the area. I walked right up to the HA and looked at a couple of their bikes and said "shit. Thats what they are supposed to look like". " I bought this bike as a basket case and must have put it togather wrong". I thought it was pretty funny. A couple of the HA's were riding BMW LT's
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  5. VFR_firefly

    VFR_firefly Buh Bye!

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    The 1%-er actually ARE the one percent of riders who give us ALL a bad name. Criminal assholes like the HA's should all be given a shortcut to the dirt-nap if you ask me.
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  6. bobzilla

    bobzilla Dirty Old Man

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    True That.
    Boys will be boys and those boys play a bit rougher than most
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  7. Wreckster

    Wreckster Been here awhile

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    having known a few myself, a good deal of them are stand-up guys. As I saw it, they might let the few of the boys be boys, but step in if things get out of hand. These old fellers no longer ride, getting old, but I'm sure some area's still have a few HA like this.

    (if I recall, I had met at one time the leader in this area. Unbelievably nice old guy)
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  8. AzB

    AzB Fattest thin man

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    Careful. Some of them are pretty good guys.

    I used to think like you until I befriended an Outlaw. He invited me to come to the clubhouse one Friday night. Now, I'm not scared of much, but I did have visions of me tied to a tree while they wheeled my bike off into the garage laughing.

    What actually happened was we played poker. And wouldn't you know, I had a massive winning streak. As my total mounted, I became a little concerned that I wouldn't be leaving with the booty. Or maybe I wouldn't be leaving at all. I kept taking thier money and they kept laughing about it... kinda like in the movies where the bad guy makes you feel all safe and happy before he gets out the chainsaw.

    In fact, they were great guys. I went back several more times and rode with them a few times. We had a lot of laughs, and nothing criminal ever happened. In fact, I remember helping one of thier 6 year old daughters with her homework out by the bonfire. Some of them may be criminals, but some of them are just fun loving guys with a code of ethics that's long gone from most of the people in this country. If/when the fecal matter hits the oscillating blades, I'd feel much better being with these guys than many of my neighbors, or even some of the local cops.

    Az
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  9. trumpet

    trumpet Group W Bench

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    Shed your ignorance, go out and make a friend
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  10. Dirtgeek

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    Kind of a long story. About tens years ago we were dispatched to assist a physically disabled person. It was a guy that had a knee replaced. He was in his mid sixties. Several times we helped him into his home after his doctor visits. He and his wife thanked us and i told him it was my pleasure.

    Forward to last year. My Battalion Chief tells me a guy called and says his wife had passed away and he wanted to know if a couple of firefighters would assist as pall bearers. I didn't know the guy and didn't want to do it. My Batt. Chief says it was a guy that said we helped into his house after knee surgery years ago. I remembered him. I thought it was a weird request but he was an older guy and he lived close. I figured he didn't have family around so I agreed and conscripted one of our ffs here to go with me.

    We went to the funeral home and met with the funeral directors and the guy. I told him I was guy that helped him after his knee replacement years ago. He remembered me. There was a county deputy and a city cop also there as bearers too. While hanging around for the service to begin, Outlaws bikers in colors begin showing up. Probably around thirty of them.

    We did the funeral home thing and the procession to the cemetary for the burial. Two ffs, two cops, and two Outlaws guys carrying the casket. Afterward, the riders each came by and shaked our hands and thanked us. Obviously, this guy has an affiliation with the Outlaws. The whole thing was very strange to me. The guy still drives and i see him heading into town once in a while. Drives a big assed pick up truck.

    That's my biker gang story.

    al
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  11. TomN

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    :lol3 :rofl

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  12. VFR_firefly

    VFR_firefly Buh Bye!

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    All you were missing was an Indian and a Construction worker...
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  13. CrazyTed

    CrazyTed Adventurer

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    Remember, there are Hell's Angels and then there are the real 1%ers. It's the real 1%ers you have to worry about. The rest are mostly hardcore bikers and won't give you any trouble. Some of the 1% would just rather shoot at you because of a shirt you are wearing. I know personally. It's basically like all groups you deal with. Many times there are problem people in all groups.
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  14. DaFoole

    DaFoole Well Marbled... Supporter

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    :huh


    :lol3 :lol3 :lol3

    :clap :clap :clap
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  15. T O Double D

    T O Double D Pogue Mahone

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    The other day coming back from my local off-road park I had these two jackasses on BMWs cut me off. I own a 1200 GSA but I was riding my DRZ400S, which is slow in a straight line, but if you know what you're doing, it can be fast in the turns. I was almost home, and knew this stretch of road very well. At every turn I would get to within a couple of feet of their rear tire and stick there until the staights, when of course they would blast ahead of me. Finaly, we both made a left onto my road. I decided I was done playing with these two and took a very aggressive inside line on them and got ahead of them. I'm sure they weren't expecting competition from a bike that had 1/3 the displacement, but really I think they shouldn't have cut me off to begin with, and definatly should have let me by after I showed them up at everry turn. Just goes to show that it's not the bike, but the person.
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  16. Monkey_Boy

    Monkey_Boy Los bichos atacan

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    Do NOT attend an HA party. That's where you might get get hurt. Drinking, etc. can lead to weird things. Otherwise, live and let live.
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  17. AzB

    AzB Fattest thin man

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    Or maybe they didn't know they were racing? :rofl

    Az
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  18. DirtDOG

    DirtDOG Same Dog, New Tricks

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    Sounds like you had a run in with Heck's Angels. :nod
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  19. NVBigBlue

    NVBigBlue Been here awhile

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    Greetings all!

    This thread and the fact that Street Vibrations is this weekend reminds me of something...

    I've never had any issues with any riders on any type of bike. Given, I've only got 20K miles of 'real' riding under my @$$, but once....

    way back in 1996, I was tooling around on the big, bad Yamaha Riva 125. For those of you not familiar with Reno, Virginia Street, runs from way up in North Reno, down by the University, through downtown, and goes south through town and it turns into hwy 395 going to Carson City. At any rate, the Saturday that Street Vibrations started that year, I pulled out of the Uni having just finished something or other, and headed south on N. Virginia. Down past the rest of the U, and coming up on the casinos, I pulled up to a stop light and was waiting just minding my own business. Then there was a rumble. ..... And it kept getting louder. I look in my mirrors, and all I see are motorcycle headlights vibrating towards me. Two abreast, and goig back pretty much as far as I can see in my mirrors....

    OH CRAP :yikes

    So the light is still red, and these loud bikes roll up behind me. Now they're riding in two lines, side by side, and I'm sitting in the right side of the lane. The bikes behind me stop, and the line on the left moves up. So now I've got I don't know of these Harley's behind me, and I've got a full line on my left, including one sitting right next to me :cry

    I look at him. He's in front of me by a few feet, and he's got all the HA stuff embroidered on his vest.... He looks at me. We give each other the 'nod'. I'm thinking ok, calm down, I can always turn.... CRAP!!! one way street, no right turn.... OK, next street I TURN!.. The light turns green... I roll on the throttle... my Riva goes... bbbbuuuuzzzzzzz........ except something is weird.... I'm moving forward, gaining speed and I can feel the bike revving up, but I can't hear it over the roar of all the damn bikes behind me. And this strange feeling is coming over me... people on the sidewalk are looking at all these bikes.... and they're looking at me.... I feel .... powerful or something....:bow

    Now you have to picture me on this red Riva 125 scooter (complete with the little factory top box...), black sneakers, no socks, cut-off camoflauge shorts, gray wife-beater, and an open-face metalic blue ATV styled helmet, rolling down Virginia Street during the biggest bike event in Reno every year with 50 or more rumbling, shaking, noisey Harley's, all riding along with me in the #1 spot.

    I can't lie..... The next turn came up and I didn't turn. I kept going straight. I rode down Virginia Street for over 2 miles, as the #1 guy, until we reached the convention center. As we got to Peckam Lane, they moved into the left turn lane, while I went straight. The light was red and we all stopped. The turn light went green, and as they rolled by and turned left, almost all of the them looked right at me and gave some type of nod or acknowledgement as they went by.

    I've never been more scared or more hyped than during that ride.:super

    I've had inter actions with HA's since then, and I've never had any problems. I think most everyone is spot on. There are HA's and then there are the 1%ers....

    I say, give 'em a wave and move on. If they give you crap, take a detour or roll on the throttle. Either way, you put space between them and you.

    Ride safe!

    NV
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  20. T O Double D

    T O Double D Pogue Mahone

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    I was never racing. I just wanted to go at my own pace, while they cut in front of me then slowed me down for several miles. Besides, when someone is within 3 feet of your bumper you KNOW they are there. During every turn I was stuck to 'em.
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