Help me desecrate a WR250R please

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Dean Ohlin, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. Dean Ohlin

    Dean Ohlin Inner City Elite

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    First up, this may never happen. Depending on change of heart, what else appears on the market while I'm still pondering this etc., I may go another way.

    Currently only got the road bike Honda NC700S. First straight road bike for a few years and she's immediately shot up amongst my favourites ever owned.

    But miss puttering around on all the great local dirt roads and occasionally having a bit of a poke up a side track just to see what's up there.

    So, something small and light, reasonably modern (oil and filter changes and bolt on stuff about my limit) while good on the road and handy for running local errands etc.

    So anyway, here's what I'm thinking.

    Buy WR250R....look around for a neat looking standard lateish model at a reasonable price.

    WARNING....some may find the following content disturbing!

    Lower it (heaps!) Yeah, for what I want it's just too high at 930 (I think?) seat height. I had a TTR250 and while I got by on it, lower would be better. I'd take it to a suspension specialist and get it done properly...ie by internally reducing the travel of the suspension components rather than links etc. Pricey ($1000+?) but from basic research, probably better for my needs. I don't know if the WR250R will bear it, but I'd like to reduce the travel by 100mm, bringing the seat down to about 830mm.

    So again, my (very!) basic research then leads me to wonder about the effect of this. Reduction in suspension travel in itself I would not see as a problem...I'd still have more travel than anything else I'd alternatively be considering for the job. I'm perhaps a bit optimistic here, but I'm thinking that the resulting changes to steering geometry/C.O.G. etc may, for my purposes, be an advantage....bit more stable on the bitumen and smooth gravel.
    Before you tell me "mate, she'll be hopeless over the jumps" or "you'll have to slow right down to wheelie over a log" let me assure you, and as I'm sure anyone here who ever ridden behind me will attest, those factors will not impede my pace at all. Nuh, I just need her good enough for the occasional scrabble up a bit a rocky rutted hill...probably feet down, cause now I can reach.

    That'd be about it apart from the obvious, bight the bullet and buy a bigger tank, run chunkiest looking road tyres that are still nice and smooth on the highway and basic luggage rack.

    So, all comments gratefully received….especially interested in feedback from anyone who knows a bit about suspension and steering geometry etc.

    Edit PS...I'm 175cm with short legs and bike will carrying 80-90 kilos.
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  2. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    So dave, maybe a DR250 or an XT250 might be a cheaper option and still give you what you want
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  3. Dean Ohlin

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    Mate, I think the WR might be markedly more pleasant on trips up and down the highway, especially when fitted with...hang on, did I previously mention my bucket seat plans?
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  4. Roofchop

    Roofchop Hands up mother stickers, this is a f**k up!

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    You can lower the WR about 25mm with the stock shock/linkage setup.

    Also could get a custom seat, or shave the stocker, maybe 50mm or more.

    Raise the forks 15-20mm.

    Going to be near 100mm with full suspension/geometry etc.

    Cheers
    Dave

    Edit, bucket seat....(low bucket I hope):D
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  5. Sfcootz

    Sfcootz Proud to be a 0.6106142755%er Super Moderator

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    @Dean Ohlin should I smuggle in a seat concepts low saddle for you?
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  6. Big Willy

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    Hey Dave

    The WR250 is a good thing but to me the rear guard seems unnecessarily high and that's the first thing you have to cock your leg over.

    A KLX250 also has a 6 speed box and there are plenty around secondhand. It's got a seat height of 890mm.

    A couple of different dogbones on the rear suspension and drop the forks and you'll be larfing...you may even find one with the 300cc kit fitted as they were a free option from Kwaka at one time.
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  7. Blakduk

    Blakduk Don’t be too practical.

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    I think you are on the right track. It is high. Almost as high as any dirtbike. If you can get it lowered like you want then I believe it will be ideal for the purpose that you explained. It is much lighter than many dual purpose bikes (you've had a TTR I think, so you know), so it is less prone to tipping over 'past the point of no return', like some big bikes. I really think that you'd find this bike nice.
    Although mine is now set up a bit different to how you would do yours, (noisier, higher revviing), the offer is still there for you to take it for a spin.
    When I'm tired or with bags on the back, I mount it by climbing up onto the LHS footpeg, while the stand is down. Haven't bent it yet, and I think I'm heavier than you!
    I find the seat is very good standard. Sometimes I put on my Airhawk.
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  8. Andrew2

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    I've been looking at similar Dav.....um Dean:lol3, and as per usual it's all a compromise. I think I've settled on the WRR but then I change my mind again:(. The WR is lighter and better on transports than the other 250's with a high ( I think 40,000km ) valve adjustment interval and even then they generally don't need much adjustment. Lots of after market accessories but as mentioned a higher seat. The buy in cost is higher compared to say a TTr but the TTr does have screw and locknut valve adjustment so it's easier to do your own maintenance. The WR's rear suspension is a bit soft standard and the damping loses it and tries to kick you off the bike. They also chew chain sliders at an alarming rate.
    There's also the CRF 250/Rally. Heavier and less power than the WR. Not as good on snotty stuff but still a good poking around type bike. No after market tank for the rally but comes with a slightly larger tank than the base model. The KLR/DR/TTR 250's are great back roads bikes but a little slow highway transports. Horses for courses:dunno.
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  9. DR Steve

    DR Steve Been here awhile

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    I too have been looking into the WR250R. They don't come up for sale often down here. I've not ridden one - are they worth spending more on than a DRZ250 ?
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  10. hoorang

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    Don't forget when looking at seat heights that the manufacturer is only talking about the bike standing upright under its own weight - no rider.

    Luggage and rider bring it down to race sag and is usually 100mm or more than static or completely unladen or fully extended suspension.

    The above doesn't help me much at 5'7" on a tall day on my 501 but I know fully loaded I get more than a just a toe to the ground which is every other day...
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  11. DRjoe

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    I've got a lowered wr in the workshop at the moment and i'm sure the owner wouldn't mind if you wanted to pop down and have a sit on it.
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    Reckon the KLX is worth a look to Dave
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  13. Dean Ohlin

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    I said I'd never have a Kwaka after what the GraveDiggers did to Ken Shorter, but it's been long enough now... I'll have look.
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    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    Just dont expect a reinactment of this in green, i wont be doing it :D

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    Ooops…...deleted as soon as I remembered whose thread I was posting crap in!
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    Blakduk Don’t be too practical.

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    Lowering linkage and slot the forks through @ 25mm...

    What are the possibilities of 17" motard wheels and a TKC80 or MT 21 Pirelli type "crossover" tire on the WR...?

    That would drop the saddle height around 75mm all up, give you nice road manners, still some gravel grip and suspension travel...?

    Like this... but with the "lowering treatment" like Joe mentioned. :deal

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  19. bigbrad

    bigbrad Been here awhile

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    This is a fantastic offer Dean. Will help cement your decision one way or another and he is just down the road.
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  20. Wonkyconk

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    The ground clearance is already low on these bikes, ruts and rocks can knock your feet off the pegs.
    Just a consideration when lowering
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