Help Me Identify CCP in this photo

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by mdmaroon, Jun 24, 2010.

  1. mdmaroon

    mdmaroon Mike

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    I'm thinking of removing my CCP (Cat Code Plug) to cure a surging issue. I have seen it described as being yellow, and in the center of the fuse box. Well I have a yellow relay (or whatever it is), but not in the center. Do I have a CCP at all? Is it the yellow one off to the side, or is it supposed to be where the empty socket is...

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    Thanks....
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  2. MudSling

    MudSling Been here awhile

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    You don't have a CCP on your bike. It would be where the white square socket is... my '01 1150GS didn't have one installed when I bought it either.

    You can try the StepToe jumper mod which often helps.

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  3. GeorgeinVA

    GeorgeinVA Beemers Uber Alles

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    cgdrake is correct. The cat code plug is a jumper. I is the only "relay" with only two terminals.
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  4. bigdave-gs

    bigdave-gs Been riding longer than a lot have been alive !

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    what does this jumper change on the bike. Is it for bikes that have removed the stock exhaust? I have thought about changing my exhaust system out for the Wunderlich collector and the Wunderlich tuner so I wouldn't burn my valve from running lean.
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  5. mdmaroon

    mdmaroon Mike

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    Hey thanks! I'm going to try that out. Is the jumper position shown in your pic the best or only option?

    I have a Y pipe so that is probably why the CCP is gone.
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  6. MudSling

    MudSling Been here awhile

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    Read this thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189972

    It will answer some of your questions and has a chart with the various jumper settings.

    Good luck!
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    onesaintsfan BigJohnHart

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    Wonder how much BMW charges for that little Faux Relay? That is crazy
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  8. GeorgeinVA

    GeorgeinVA Beemers Uber Alles

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    $6.42
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  9. Poolside

    Poolside Syndicated

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    Really? At least that's halfway reasonable. If I remember, that thing used to be $35.

    <BR>
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  10. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    BMWs for Canadian delivery are not fitted with the CCP. Only US bikes are. The CCP for US bikes is yellow/gold in color. The CCP selects the appropriate map in the ECM based upon emmissions requirements. Instal the US CCP and you'll get better mileage.
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  11. mdmaroon

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    I did give it a try and it seemed like the slow speed throttle response was better (meaning more progressive and easier to use small amounts of throttle).

    After a bit more testing, I found that the mid range power was kind of flat. Like it was getting either too much fuel or not enough (not sure). Kind of like the engine bogged a bit in the mid RPM range.

    I removed the jumper as it did nothing for my surging issue which is what I was trying to fix. I think I'll just live with it, because apparently it is normal from what I've been reading.
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  12. BluByU

    BluByU Long timer Supporter

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    Surge, surge SURGE what is this you speak of ??
    OK, Ya they all do that, and have tried everything to solve it. some what better

    best mod was the CCP jumper.
    I did the 30 to 87a jumper,
    Better low throttle response.
    Fuel millage got better:dunno this makes no sense to me, but I am not complaining
    Yes a bit flatter in the mid range, barley noticeable
    "your results may very"

    The 1100GS has a y pipe and low restriction muffler and I ride it like I stole it
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  13. GmanVic

    GmanVic Been here awhile

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    I bought a 1997 R1100GS from Seattle last year (I live in Victoria, BC) and love the bike EXCEPT FOR the surging issue. Been working through all the AWESOME advice on this site, including meticulous Rocker Arm and valve adjustments; new plugs; complete Zero=Zero; bought a TwinMaster and everything (woohoo)! So far, no improvement. I have just changed the throttle cables and aircleaner and now putting 'er back together. Thanks for all the great wisdom, wit, experience, and opinion on this site. I will post (here? someother thread?) with those results.
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  14. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    You can connect the bottom jumper to the right for low octane fuel.
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  15. roger 04 rt

    roger 04 rt Long timer

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    Here is a link to jumper info: Coding Plug Info

    On the R1100GS the 30-87a jumper wire disables the O2 sensor and accesses a richer fueling map. It you do that, it's a good idea to add a CO potentiometer and get CO adjutee to 1.5%. Before doing that I'd ask if your bike runs better when the engine is cold.

    Looks like you're working your way down the list. It'd probably be a good idea to start a different thread for your questions.
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  16. GmanVic

    GmanVic Been here awhile

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    Thank you Roger. The bike is running much better with the CCP plug removed. I will read about jumpers now and start a new thread if I have more Q's.
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