Help me improve Furkot, a free online road trip planner

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by melitele, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. melitele

    melitele Furkot Developer

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    Wansfel's kindly shared workaround notwithstanding, I hope you'll be pleased to know that I am working on providing an additional flavor of GPX export that is intended to be more palatable to Garmin devices. I'll let you know when it's ready and I hope it will work with your GPS.

    I don't have side-by-side comparison with those tools but you may find the list of Furkot's features helpful here - http://help.furkot.com/getting-started/all-features.html.
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  2. melitele

    melitele Furkot Developer

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    That's a good point - I'll see what I can do.

    That said, automatic stops (both fuel and lodging) are primarily meant to signal that a break will be necessary according to your time and driving range settings. The feedback we have been getting suggests that people want to have a look at lodging and pick the one they like (that's what Sleep drawer is for), or at the very least consciously approve Furkot's selection (that's Keep button), or create overnight stop manually (if staying with friends/family).

    As you probably noticed, Furkot doesn't even assign gas stations to fuel stops as long as you have automatically scheduled overnight stops (shown semi-transparently as opposed to overnight stops approved or created by the user shown in solid color) - we want to quickly show you how many refueling stops you'll make while not wasting time finding gas stations you probably won't use anyway as your trip plan is bound to change once you replace all automatic overnight stops by your choice of lodgings.

    Thank you for trying Furkot out and taking time to comment.
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  3. Rgconner

    Rgconner Long timer

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    Crazy idea: tie Furkot to a Fuelly profile to schedule gas stops.
    Crazier: Tie it to gas buddy or something like that to get lowest price. Not that it is that big of a deal with most of our motorcycles, but big for your RV/Camper crowd I am sure. *(maybe it does this behind the scenes?)

    BTW, it was really cool to look at a destination, picked by the riding club I belong to, and find accommodations that are more to my liking

    They like real motels/hotels. I like a campground, and found 3 good ones within 3 miles of where they were staying.

    (and yes, I was thinking having a bicycle button for motorcycles to get lower traffic roads, but did not quite get the idea across clearly, but you got it!)
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  4. melitele

    melitele Furkot Developer

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    This is a cool idea, esp. on the go - automatically recalculate subsequent gas stops after you fill'er up. We have been loosely thinking about sth like that and knowing there is a potential partner brings it closer to actual implementation. Thank you.

    Furkot has teamed up with myGasFeed to get gas stations and prices in US. They are a smaller but more developers' friendly competitor of GasBuddy. At the moment Furkot just find the closest gas station but we plan to take into account prices as well - you've got a point with RV/Campers for sure. In case you haven't found it yet, we display them along the list of gas stations in the Eat :wink: drawer.
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  5. TRZ Charlie

    TRZ Charlie That's MR. Asshole

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    Question 1 - I've been lurking and using Furkot. I just imported a long trip I have planned in Basecamp and Mapsource. It is in .gpx format and was planned as a route. However, when importing it into Furkot it seems to now be in track form. Am I missing something or should it have stayed a route?

    Question 2 - Do we have the ability to change track line colors? I usually load my routes/tracks as individual day trips. Within those trips I'd like to call out difficult riding areas using red along the track line so that I know whats coming. Is this doable? Mountain bikers would benefit from this as well.
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  6. melitele

    melitele Furkot Developer

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    Assigning colors to portions of the trip within trip plan is definitely on the list and I'll work on it soon. I'll keep you posted.

    As of now the tripshot widget is the only context in which you can assign colors to trips (example: https://trips.furkot.com/widget/ts/mH2rAH?colors=,ff0000,ffff00,0000ff&ts_id=atvylb,dokfYl,AkJcmj, help article: http://help.furkot.com/widgets/embed.html).
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  7. FTL900

    FTL900 White and nerdy

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    I just found this today, and I love it!!

    I've been planning a summer trip since last year- beginning with a a road trip in my truck to ferry three motorcycles from Las Vegas to Puyallup WA.
    That's when the fun starts with 4 days of riding.
    1. The first day is a local loop ride, 75 miles up the Narrows Bridge and then down across Vashon Island to get used to the bikes, check everything out, and make minor adjustments as needed.
    2. On the second day we'll leave from Puyallup riding southwest to the Pacific coast, follow 101 down into Oregon and south to Tillamook and then east to Portland.
    3. The third day we're following east on the Columbia river, making a large loop around a park area, and then returning the same way back to the Portland area.
    4. The fourth day riding east from the Portland area thru Carson WA. and then north past My St Helens and Mt Rainier, back to Puyallup.

    And of course, then the long road trip back home in the truck. The truck parts are pretty easy.. long stretches of super-slab designed to put the miles behind me in 2 days.
    But the 4 local days of riding are where the fun is. I'm using your app to redesign our 4 days of riding.
    I love that I can pick and adjust the waypoints so easily, and I'll be able to use Furkot to book local rooms for us each night.

    I see that Furkot won't add a gas stop in conjunction with a sleep stop, but how about allowing me to manually add fuel stops and then let Furkot readjust the next fuel stop, or let Furkot plan fuel stops in conjunction with any other stop? If I'm stopping for a meal, then I'm going to gas up while I'm stopped instead of making a fuel-only stop later.

    Edit: OK, I found it, in the EAT drawer. I wasn't exactly looking there for it, but now I know.

    I'm totally using it!
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  8. melitele

    melitele Furkot Developer

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    Thank you Michael for your kind words about Furkot.
    I did a similar trip once (sadly not on motorcycle). That's incredibly beautiful part of the country.

    I'm sorry about hiding gas stations in the Eat drawer - I'll find a better home for them.

    While it doesn't completely solve it, you can manually mark any stop that lets you change its icon as refueling stop. In Plan drawer, when you select stop you can see its details and in the top left corner there is an icon representing stop type that you can click. Some stops won't let you do that though (for instance you can't take a restaurant and make it into something else).
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  9. Ciph3r

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    Furkot has really grown on me, its a very useful tool for me and the planning of my month long trip to and through Italy :)

    One thing I noticed today is, that Basecamp won't import the gpx files anymore (not in any combination), I have a older export of my trip and that is working without a problem. The only difference I can see is, that the new export has a <time>< time >2014-05-09T13:00:00.000Z</time>< / time > field for every <rept>< rtept >. If it helps, I can send you both trip files.</rept>
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  10. melitele

    melitele Furkot Developer

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    Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Indeed Furkot had a bug but it's fixed now. I apologize for the inconvenience.
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  11. FTL900

    FTL900 White and nerdy

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    This is really looking great, Natalia!

    One question.. I have a 4-day total trip created as 4 separate trips, one for each day. So now I have 4 corresponding trip icons, one for each day.

    Somehow I created day 2 trip first, but I can't drag and drop it into the correct order on my TRIP page. So I have DAY 2, DAY 1, DAY 3, DAY 4. Yeah, I know.. my OCD is showing. :lol3

    Is there any way to do that?? When I mouse over a trip icon, it seems like they want to respond to my attempts to rearrange them, but then they don't move.
    I double-checked my individual trip dates to make sure they're all sequential. I thought maybe they would auto-arrange based on trip beginning date.

    Thanks!
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  12. melitele

    melitele Furkot Developer

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    Trips arrange themselves by date but they only do it once when the page is opened. Try to close and reopen the page, or refresh it, or log out and log back in.

    We are also working to support trip grouping, tagging and arranging according to user's criteria - I'll keep you posted.
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  13. wanderlost

    wanderlost Been here awhile Supporter

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    Hi: I tried out the program just now and found a problem (at least for me). I started clicking in a series of road I wanted to include in a trip and as the route extended, the program re-routed me from the routes I picked to a more "sensible" and direct route, but that is not my goal. Is there a way to drop points and not have the program change them?

    Otherwise it seems intuitive and easy to use. I could se myself using this to lay out a road trip.


    Paul
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  14. s1marks

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    Just found this today. Wow! looks fantaatic, will definitely be using for this summers big trip. Will play some more over the next few weeks.

    So many roads, so little time!

    S1
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  15. FTL900

    FTL900 White and nerdy

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    That absolutely did it. I logged back in today and they're rearranged into chronological order.

    You may want to to cross-post this into another forum or two, to get the word out there. The PNW riders forum encompasses Washington, Oregon, and Idaho.
    Another that comes to mind is TWTex, Two Wheel Texans... those guys have a big state and do a lot of big rides down there as well.
    Maybe the ZRXOA.org as well, it's nation-wide with a few international members.
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  16. Ciph3r

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    I can think of a feature I would like to have: an export where I can get a zip file for example with gpx files for each day. I put many stops and other locations into my routes and it is not easy for me to see where one day ends and another starts in basecamp or on my garmin.
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  17. melitele

    melitele Furkot Developer

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    A fine idea. In the meantime, did you try the new export option 'Include overview routes (one route per day)'? It may help esp. in Basecamp.
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  18. Ciph3r

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    Not yet, but I finally got a first version of my route done :) https://trips.furkot.com/board/mKL5H4 (any comments on that?) will try the export with "one route per day" later :)
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  19. McAninch35

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    Really loving Furkot! I especially love how willing you are to accept input, Natalia.

    I look forward to the iPhone app, if that's still in the cards. If done well this combo could be absolutely perfect for me. :D
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  20. melitele

    melitele Furkot Developer

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    Definitely in the cards! Thank you for using Furkot.

    When you open Furkot on the phone now you see a list of stops in your trips and can easily start native navigation app (Apple Maps on iPhone) to navigate to a selected stop. We want to give our users more than that: ability to modify their trips on the go as well as navigate not just the shortest route but along their own custom planned route.

    We are working on the new version of Furkot mobile page and Furkot iPhone app for the former and are seeking partnerships with developers of navigation apps for the latter. I may have something to announce about navigating custom routes with a phone app soon. Stay tuned.
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