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Here We Go Again - Yet Another BMW R1150GS Adventure/Ural Sidecar Renovation

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by mikepa, Feb 5, 2020.

  1. mikepa

    mikepa SideCzarist Supporter

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    Just put four spools on order for delivery tomorrow!
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  2. BJMoose

    BJMoose that trick never works Supporter

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    ^Remember to burn the ends
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  3. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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  4. BJMoose

    BJMoose that trick never works Supporter

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    ^Thanks for fixing that
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  5. mikepa

    mikepa SideCzarist Supporter

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  6. mikepa

    mikepa SideCzarist Supporter

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    Baby steps, baby steps, one wire, one terminal, one heat shrink sleeve at a time. Ned, please note the labeling :D!

    The R1150GSA though a bit long in the tooth, has many redeeming features: no CANbus, discrete circuits, no body panels to remove, just the fuel tank and seat, and that nice space under the seat where the toolkit used to reside (remember those days of old when BMW not only gave to two sets of metal keys, and also a usable toolkit?:

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    Weatherproof relay for the tug's auxiliary driving lights. Yes, I checked the ground integrity with a meter (that ground is only for the relay coil, will run a discrete ground back to the fuse block for the lights). Going to lose that molded split loom once the braided stuff arrives:

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  7. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    Didn't notice this before. I'm sure it's on your "to do" list. Is this BMW or previous owner? And what is it anyway?

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  8. mikepa

    mikepa SideCzarist Supporter

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    That is BMW factory. Loop bundle for the heated grip cabling, rock stock, I just wrapped on new Wurth friction tape.
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  9. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    I put new heated grips on my 1150, ran all new wiring down through the bar, even soldered in new Deutsch pins for that white connector. You know the one.

    Just sayin'

    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Is there an emoji for "just pulling your chain"?
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  10. mikepa

    mikepa SideCzarist Supporter

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    Over the years, I've learned to not mess with BMW/OEM/Original Equipment anything. Nothing wrong with a wire loop here and there for extra factory cable harnesses.

    And, don't know about you, but I wear out those heated handgrips on a regular basis, consider them a "consumable". I'm guessing BMW designed them with the a wire harness length needed for the longest run, for all models using the same grips, that's why the length is longer than needed for a GSA. I don't want to spend what time I have left on this planet rebuilding the grips themselves, or de-poping a connector just to shorten a harness on a consumable part.

    But of course, YMMV, and I'll bow to fastidiousness!

    Alex Tech woven/braided split loom was delivered today!
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  11. rg sw wa.

    rg sw wa. Long timer Supporter

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    Maybe I don’t ride enough but if someone has time please explain how someone wears out heated handgrips ? And, when they are worn out do they stop heating up or does a fuse blow, etc....
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  12. MGV8

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    Yeah, inquiring minds want to know. My grips are worn but the heated part is working fine.
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  13. Jeff488

    Jeff488 Aspiring Profligate

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    You might try fishing rod grip available on ebay. They come in various diameters and and a 10’ piece is cheap. Cut to length and hit it with a heat gun. Bob’s yer uncle.
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  14. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    :fpalm

    Mike--sorry I asked. Better post something new before the drivel goes any farther.
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  15. BJMoose

    BJMoose that trick never works Supporter

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    If ya ask me you are losing your grip.

    I'll show myself out.
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  16. mikepa

    mikepa SideCzarist Supporter

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    Before discovering woven/braided wire loom:

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    After (relay wiring not finished yet, so it's still "unloomed"):

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    @DRONE, we good enough now buddy? Time to move on yet?
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  17. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    :bmwrider
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  18. masegraves

    masegraves Adventurer Supporter

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    I saw that the woven braid is split along its length. What keeps it from opening up when it is used?
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  19. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    The just don't get as warm and the grips themselves are way overpriced.

    Is the iabs staying ? DId you bleed them during this maintenance break ? I believe there's 9 bleeders and the need to build a fluid reservoir, I think BMW likes them bled every other year .

    Here is the difference in your point of view and mine, the bikes 16 + years old, you don't know the history of brake maintenance, brake fluid loves
    moisture, if the abs pump fails as things do they are now worth more than most 1150gs's

    01 34 51 2 331 637 HYDRO UNIT (to 09/02) 11.33 1 $4281.03
    [​IMG]
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  20. mikepa

    mikepa SideCzarist Supporter

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    Good question, and your advice, and that of any other viewers welcome. This tug is a Frankenbike for sure. The previous owner was a f*cking crook, who seriously mis-represented what he was selling. but that's OK, I can generally fix it. On the ABS, as delivered, the front wheel had no tone ring, hmmmmm? And after a couple days of ripping out the wiring abortion, I noticed the old black electrical tape over the ABS idiot light in the instrument cluster. So, even though the asshole that owned this rig previously swore that "everything worked", this was, apparently "fake news".

    Am waiting on a set of caliper carriers for the leading link front end to be delivered from Holland next week. When they arrive, I intend to finish bleeding the brake system. The rear brake circuit is done. We'll see what happens on the front. The ABS hall effect sensor for the front wheel is intact and installed. @Stroker is a good man, and he's sending me a cast tone ring at no charge. The bike is a 2002 model year.

    What's your advice please?
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