Hi n00b, welcome to ADVrider. Got a question do ya?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by creeper, Jun 8, 2007.

  1. creeper

    creeper Still alive...

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    Hi there forum n00bster…

    So, you’d like to ask a question would you bunkie? That’s great… that’s what forums are all about.

    Always remember that your potential responders are not mind readers… so, you need to provide basic information.
    Do not assume that anyone here knows anything about anything you ride.

    I. What we may need to know about you and your bike:

    Bike:
    • What year?
    • What model?
    • Are you the original owner or the 2nd, 3rd… 9th owner?
    • How long have you owned it?
    • Do you take care of it, or does a dealer take care of it... or does it just magically take care of itself?
    • Is the bike stock… if you don’t know, can you provide pics of the offending widget generating your question?
    • If it’s a “state of tune” question, can you tell us what mods have been made to jetting, pipe, airbox, cam etc… if any?
    • Leak questions should always include what the fluid is… like brand and type... even color, if you know.
    • Questions about a handling quirk should include any recent chassis changes and the brand, model and condition of your tires... don't forget the air pressure either.
    See where I’m going here? State all pertinent facts when ever possible. If you are unsure of the pertinent facts, tell what you know and say: "I'm not really sure I know what I'm looking at here... would someone please tell me what information they need to provide me with a possible diagnosis?"

    You:
    • How long you been riding?
    • What is your skill level? Anything from no00bie n00bs to Dakar competitors live here.
    • What is your physical status? In decent shape or arthritic hunchback… again, we got ‘em all here.
    • Are you mechanically inclined? If you get a techno answer, does it need to be explained in excruciatingly painful detail, or can someone say “your overthruster bearing is toast” and you’re good to go?
    • Are you complaining about the vibration of your bike… having just got off a Gold Wing and on to a four-stroke single for the first time in your life?
    • Are you complaining about how tall your bike is? You are the person that bought it... right?
    • Are you complaining in general? Stop it. Grow up. Get a life. Everybody has problems.
    Again… see where I’m going here?

    II. What you need to know about the people that “live” here.

    Forums are populated with a cross-section of humanity. That means that there people here you’ll like… and some, not so much.
    There will be people here that know less about motorcycles than you do… but, because it’s a public forum, they still will offer up their opinion.

    Post counts… don’t count.
    There are people here that are completely oblivious to the fact that they are not mechanically inclined… that have post counts in the 20K plus range (You can blame JM for this anomaly), and there are people that joined just yesterday that might be moto-rocket surgeons… but as yet don’t have that kool, rocket surgeony reputation.

    A perception of confidence on your part is not an indicator of intelligence or comprehension on the part of the responder. There are lots of confident morons here too.

    Speaking of perception... a single word can change the way someone perceives your issue. Happens all the time here. On occasion you will get an answer, well meaning and insightful, that has little to do with your problem.
    Why? Perception. If your questions are clear and concise you have a much better chance of your answers being equal to the questions.

    III. Wading thru the poo.

    In your post title, don’t be vague and cute… If your Webley-Vickers 441 SS-TT engine has sprung a leak... Say: “Help! W-V 441 engine leak question”.

    Write in easy to read structured sentences and paragraphs. There’s nothing more annoying than trying to read one big run-on block of 736 words with little or no punctuation… little or no “beginning, middle and end”.
    Not real good at punctuation 'N shit? Nobody here is really good at it either... but you can give it your best shot eh?

    Now that you’ve written a well structured post with all valuable info included… congratulations! You’re on you way to obtaining some well earned respect and appreciation from those that will (hopefully) take the time to provide an equally well thought out, and concise answer.

    Sit back… your answers will be forthcoming. Now all you have to do is sort the pearls from the poo.

    Oh, last thing. This is the interwebnet, and contrary to what you've heard, you'll need to dig thru lots of poo to find those wisdom soaked pearls.

    Best 'O luck,
    C
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  2. nelgallan

    nelgallan oilfield trash

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    that was worth reading the whole thing for :photog

    :lurk
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  3. btl68

    btl68 .

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    :D Also, please state WHERE you live. A close-by member might be able to help, in person!:D Also, it will help to know if you are at altitude or sea level, and knowing your approximate whereabouts is helpful in determining that.
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  4. firerigger

    firerigger Trauma waiting to happen

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    Who else votes for a sticky on this thread? (just trying to get my post count up...) :rofl
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  5. eduro

    eduro Been here awhile

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    You're not the boss of me :puke1
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  6. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Omnia mea mecum porto Supporter

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    Here's one that was missed-

    No need to quote an entire tirade if your reply is in reference to one word, one sentence, one paragraph, etc.
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  7. btl68

    btl68 .

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    Even better than that, noobs, don't RE-POST a whole bunch of freakin' pictures that my 'puter has to keep downloading! Seeing them once in a thread from the original poster is enough!
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  8. PacWestGS

    PacWestGS Life Is The Adventure!

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    Well said creeper, I vote *STICKY* in all "BIKE" threads...:freaky

    and, Dirt_Diggler's reply is fine example of :topes

    Bosses, we don't need no stinkin' bosses, just riders that like to have fun. :photog

    EDIT: (works great too) First do a "Search" for the widget in question before asking the same question someone has already found the answer too...
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  9. rockchucker22

    rockchucker22 Been here awhile

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    Ha, that was awesome!:ricky
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  10. Doghouse_Riley

    Doghouse_Riley Wannabe Adventure Tourer

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    Sticky this thread!

    Here's another one: When you ask a question give it a little time to be noticed by the inmates, like 24 hours; don't come on 2 hours later bitchin' about "why isn't anyone giving me my answer yet?"
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  11. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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  12. Sycamore

    Sycamore d00b

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    Ah! The voice of sanity.

    Sticky.
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  13. Twotaildog

    Twotaildog Old Poop

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    sticky...
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  14. husky123

    husky123 Long timer

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    sticky
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  15. carlrf

    carlrf Been here awhile

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    Oh crap! Now the pressure is on. Do I have to spell correctly too? Being a knoob is so stressfull!:eek1
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  16. Eurobiker

    Eurobiker Vintage Cat Herder

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    Insight that belies your N00b status. :thumb You're well on the way to being deN00bed. :lol3
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  17. Gregori

    Gregori Court Jester

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    To be all tech-geek on you, the computer only has to download them once, no matter how many times it displays them. (And will hold onto them for a while, so even if they show up on page 2 or 3, you still only had one download.)

    However - it's tue that in most cases, it's a PITA to have to see the same bunch of pics over and over. If there's one that's PERTINENT to the reply, and it's not with a few posts of the original, then it MIGHT make sense to re-display it.
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  18. boyscout

    boyscout sittin' down

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    Thanks for the sig :rofl
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  19. OldBMWMaster

    OldBMWMaster Banned

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    Guess they don't have a delte key with their paste key.

    This is a great post. Just look at how manyincomplete profiles there are here....some with HUGE post counts.
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  20. Nom de Guerre

    Nom de Guerre Long timer

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    Well said Chris. :thumb
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