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Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by 805gregg, Apr 12, 2006.

  1. GreaseSnake

    GreaseSnake 2wheeled maniac

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  2. Lorretto

    Lorretto City Dweller Crushperado Supporter

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    I looking for some guidance on a fueling issue on 2004 EFI Allroad.

    The bike had been running well; although, I did notice the fuel pump seemed to be on all the time. I went to take the bike out and it wouldn't idle. Under 3K it stalls out over 5K it just dies. Not sure what I should be checking. I put two gallons of fresh gas & some Seafoam in as there was not much fuel in the tank. No change still dies. I checked for an in-line fuel filter and didn't see one. The fuel pump has enough output to keep the bike running at a steady 3K - 4K RPM but dies over or under the 3-4K mark.

    Is there a screen or filter somewhere in the fuel pump or the TBs that could be clogged?

    Appreciate any guidance on what to check next: TBs, Fuel Pump?

    Thanks
  3. Lorretto

    Lorretto City Dweller Crushperado Supporter

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    Still trying to figure out the fueling problem. Bike starts and runs but doesn't like to drop below 2,000 rpm and dies over 4,000 rpm.

    The Fuel filter is in the tank Mahale KL 145. Swapped out no change.

    The fuel pump is the same as a Ducati and Moto Guzzi - got a new one on ebay for $10.00 just has the wrong intake screen but I just used the old one. Wiring clip exactly the same - plug an play with the spacer provided. Swapped the fuel pump out no change. The fuel pump still runs continuously and does not shut off until the ignition is cut off. I replaced all of the in-tank lines and all are tight and new. Anybody know what happens if I got the inlet and output ports mixed up or if for some reason the wiring on the new pump is reversed - I didn't check when it was a direct fit and assumed it was OK. Maybe not?

    I pulled about two teaspoons of what looked like saw dust from the tank but the screen and filter were clear so I don't think it had anything to do with the fueling issue.

    I did not see a Fuel Pump Relay but I assume even if there was one the bike wouldn't run if it was bad.

    I haven't tried to pull the injectors but where the bike runs OK between 2K RPM and 4K RPM - I'm thinking it is not the injectors. If I'm wrong here - how do I check them.

    Is it possible by ECU is taking a dump. If anyone has a source for the Folan ECU or if another ECU can be used as a substitute to run the bike.

    Thanks for any input.
  4. ratattack

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    Better late than never?...New owner of a later Highland motor (2008?) and a early carbureted Folan motor.
    Had contacted Folan who sent me to Rollox who referred me to a Andi Zimmerer as having all their parts but the
    email doesn't work anymore...
    Are there any manuals or parts diagrams out there?
    Are any parts available? Or interchange lists?
    Any info on what works, or doesn't?
    Anyone in the states have a bike/parts for sale?

    Thanks in advance,
    Tom
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  5. 950v2

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    I sold my Highland some years ago but have some info on my Highland homepage http://highland.racing.gs/
    All in swedish....
  6. klausmikey

    klausmikey Adventurer

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    Hi Tom,
    I can provide some drawings and assembly instructions. Also some technical infos. Just pm me and send me your email adress, I send you the infos in early September.
    Brgds
  7. ratattack

    ratattack Adventurer

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    Highland King 5.JPG Thanks for all the help, I've got a lot of work ahead...
    Tom
  8. guevara4rever

    guevara4rever Adventurer

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    more photos, descriptions))
  9. nsx

    nsx Been here awhile

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    I have a very low mileage Motard that needs a regulator/rectifier that I would sell.
  10. ratattack

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  11. Oldobi

    Oldobi Olli

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    Hello
    Please let us know about the built up of your bike. Is it all what you got or have you all parts?
    Its nice to see a new frame. The old frames are very diferent.
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  12. Oldobi

    Oldobi Olli

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  13. Oldobi

    Oldobi Olli

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    Know almost ready.
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  14. ratattack

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    That's about it...no actual Highland parts except for the engines. The frames are two of the three built by C&J for US Highland 10 or 12 years ago, the third was built up into the flat tracker demo bike at all the shows. The black and white pic I found on the internet, sent it to Jeff Cole who said it wasn't him so evidently Highland reverse engineered the frame and were planning on building their own. My mock up is just bits laying around, trying to fit the engine/frame/swingarm all together. Intakes, exhaust, electronics I have to create... 1st mock.jpg Jig.jpg
  15. guevara4rever

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  16. ratattack

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    That looks very good, I think I'll copy your engine stand!
    How does it run with the carb? I see lots of complaints with the FI system.
    Where did you get the parts for the starter conversion? I have the housing but nothing inside, Andi is looking but missing a few pieces still. And need a flywheel too, or at least the trigger wheel...
  17. ratattack

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    Nice video! So that's what they sound like. Is that with the carb or the injection?
  18. Oldobi

    Oldobi Olli

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    I got all the parts from Andi Zimmerer.
    If he don't has parts I don't know. Sorry

    I am sure that the FI version runs a lot smother an better.
    It's realy hard to adjust the caburator.

    Olli
  19. Oldobi

    Oldobi Olli

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    I think it is a FI version , because it looks like a 2003 or later.
  20. guevara4rever

    guevara4rever Adventurer

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    I have both the injector and carburetor, injector really does not work, failures during acceleration, so put the carburetor and was much better