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Discussion in 'Hacks' started by Hellracer.nl, Oct 27, 2012.
Come make me one...
I've been doing a bit of welding lately (tanning at night) and it's been making me want to get back on this project.
Started with a DMC subframe, some scrap bits of steel and random suspension bits.
It would work better in the US because the chain drive made for clearance issues in left hand turns/leaning.
The box at the back is a little big as well for proper clearance.
Overall it proved the point and is quite ride able.
The frame flexes a bit much and it didn't get finished as in with bodywork etc.
It can carry stuff with the seat folded up.
Oh and the pivot point is higher at the front than at the rear so it has a small steering affect on the chair wheel.
Not sure how much affect this has overall as this is the only one I have tried.
The theory sounded good in my head though.
and a small movie to show how easy it is to ride my leaner:
The information here is priceless. Thank you very much!!!
Just as an FYI, an interesting drawing on the Flxible Sidecar from the early 1900's.
And another resource for those looking at homebuilt:
And @Milar - AWESOME! I've been thinking about creating a sidecar dog carrier for my Aprilia Caponord
If you go to the wild section on Haulnride, you'll find my creation. I've been emailing with Dave quite a lot. Good guy!
I'm pretty stoked to see this thread is still current... I really want to put together a sidecar rig, but I don't want to sacrifice leaning the bike!
Hellracer, this is EXACTLY what I want to do! Congratulations on an amazing build.
Thanks for the compliments!
I'm still riding my leaner quite a lot.
I went to France about a week ago and drove 1800km (1120 mls) in just 3 days. I had a very good time. Perfect weather, perfect roads, perfect views, camping, enjoying the company of fellow sidecar pilots, I had a blast!
I've posted these pics on several places on the forum so don't be surprised if you've encountered them before.
Riding a motorcycle with a normal sidecar is waaay different than riding a motorcycle.
Can someone explain how riding a motorcycle with a "leaner" is different from riding a motorcycle?
It's like riding a motorcycle with one very heavy pannier.
When accelerating or decelerating you'll feel it pulling and pushing. At constant speed you won't notice it.
In corners you'll have to keep in mind that steering requires a bit more lean then normal because of the extra load that you need to push round the corner. This feels very natural and normal.
Bumpy roads can give some distortion in the steering. This is why it is important to have a very weak suspension set-up at the sidecar and beefy set-up at the motorbike. This helps to absorb all the bumps at the sidecar and thus minimalyzing the distortion.
Thanks so much. That was what I was hoping you might say.
I would add that you need to be real conscious of the width - the back corner of the sidecar is way out there, so apexing of lefts and rights is much different than the bike alone.
I don't have a ton of miles on mine to be real comfortable, so with the rig on it has been basically slow cruising. I also tire out more quickly with the rig, but expect that would taper as I use it more.
Also be ready for lots of thumbs-up, especially if the dog is along for a ride!
Love love love this thread... I had CB500T with a fixed sidecar and it was a blast even though right handers can feel a bit sketchy at times. The sidecar was too much for that little twin engine though and I blew it last fall. Bought a CB750A (Hondamatic) and will reinstall... I wish I could create the leaner but would have to redo the entire sidecar frame and welding/bending steel isn't in my wheelhouse (at least not yet). Probably wind up with another fixed rig but man does this make me want to make a leaner...
Love this thread. Tons of great help.
Was one of the guys that worked at Equalean. Learned so much from Wally, Ghraydon and Mark. Am sure I forgot more than I remember but it was a great leaner and if there are any questions on their system give me a PM and I'll see if I can answer
Wow, inside information on the Equalean, that's nice!
I would love to build an Equalean type of sidecar but since I'm just a simple office worker who likes to tinker in his shed, I'll stick to my trusty leaner.
Wally the fellow that came up with the Equalean was a car salesman. He tinkered in his shed until he got it right and the design is so simple. That's how I knew he was a smart guy, it worked and it was simple.