Honda CRF 250 Rally

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by pinglow, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. ROYAL COACHMAN

    ROYAL COACHMAN Long timer Supporter

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    At 30hp, the Rally would have the same power to weight ratio as a gen 2 klr, about 1hp per 11.5 lbs
    I'm parting ways with my f800 and the Rally is high on the list
  2. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    That is like 40% more hp easy.

    However, we need more torque than the current 250cc.

    After riding the Himalayan, if Honda can just match that engine's torque, I'd be happy. The top speed of the 250 now is fine.

    23.6 lbs.
    That would be amazing!

    Granted, rpms would be higher than the RE.

    So, I'm looking to the Rebel for the heart and soul for the CRF300L.

    2018 Rebel 300 Performance Info:
    • 2018 Rebel 300 Horsepower: 27.4 HP
    • 2018 Rebel 300 Torque: 19.9 lb/ft TQ
    • 2018 Rebel 300 MPG: 71 miles per gallon
    http://www.hondaprokevin.com/2018-honda-rebel-300-review-specs-motorcycle-cruiser-bobber-bike-cmx300
  3. Cuttlefish

    Cuttlefish Riding to disappear.

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    With the Versys 300, RE Himalayan 400 and the BMW GS310 now eating into the Rally's market share Honda would be smart to drop a 350 into it. With the KLR 650 gone and the days of the Suzuki DR 650 and 400 numbered now would be the time to do it.
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  4. Adanac rider

    Adanac rider O.S.T.R. Supporter

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    I agree , but where is the 350 ?
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  5. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    October 2013 the longer-stroke CBR300R was announced at the China International Motorcycle Trade Exhibition in Chongqing, with engine displacement increased from 249.6 to 286 cc (15.23 to 17.45 cu in) in response to Kawasaki's Ninja 300.[24] Honda said the new model has increased horsepower, from 26 to 30.5 bhp (19.4 to 22.7 kW), and greater torque, from 17 to 20 lb⋅ft (23 to 27 N⋅m).

    :hmmmmm

    In response to the Ninja 300.

    Well, Kawi has the Ninja 400 for 2018 at just $4,999!!!! 41hp!!
    Here in Missoula, MT there is a left over CBR300R for under $4,000 on the dealership floor. It's a 2015 model.

    ____
    Odds are Honda will answer Kawi at this years EICMA.

    If we are lucky we will get the 286cc for 2019.

    But there are good odds for 2020 the CRFL will be close to unicorn status.
  6. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    But on the other hand,

    The 250 seems plenty powerful. So, it's all good.

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  7. Neil_The_Wheel

    Neil_The_Wheel Long timer

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    As the old saying goes, "there is no replacement for displacement".

    The bigger difference between the Honda 250 and 300 engines is in the torque curve.

    However, the 250 Rally is a very entertaining ride as is. Rather than wringing your hands and waiting for the "perfect" bike to built to your specs, just get one that is close and go ride the fool thing.
  8. twaldron

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    That’s why you need an array of bikes. ;)
  9. breakm

    breakm Been here awhile

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    2019/2020 there will be a change in CRF250L/Rally. Otherwise they will have no small dual sport in EU anymore, and they showed their intentions of wanting to have one by going through the trouble of adding ABS and Euro4 compatibility to them which only EU market needed, and then everybody else got it at least as option.
    It all depends on possibility of making that engine run Euro5, and is it viable to make both 286 run Euro5 and 249 run Euro5.. when they have so many models on 286cc now.

    Considering that 250L will be 8 years old then, it might completely dissapear from EU lineup and keep being 250 elsewhere. Rally isnt that old, and it could use a "facelift" with 286cc Euro5 engine in 2020.
  10. Yaay

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    To be honest i expect the opposite. I wouldn't be surprised if the normal CRF250L dissapears completely in the next years (maybe there even won't be a 2019 model already). The Rally following a year or two later.. At least in Germany these bikes sell like shit. Here I have never seen a single 2017+ CRF250L on the street. The Rally maybe just once or twice.

    And speaking of Germany I understand the lack of interest to be honest. There is basically not a single legal dirt road in this country. Motorcycle riding in general became an old mans thing which is why the big BMW 1200GS is by far! the best selling bike every month for years now. There are probably more big 20,000 € BMW 1200s sold every week than all remaining dual sports combined per year.. So why would the manufacturers care about cheap small displaced bikes they make almost no profit on? In this regard I think we will just continue to get what is left in the big markets for these kind of bikes. Definitely i wouldn't expect anything in that ~450ccm unicorn range specifically made for the western markets from the big manufacturers :(
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  11. breakm

    breakm Been here awhile

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    Everything could happen, that Euro4-5 switch will be interesting, at least for us on this side of Atlantic. I'm just hoping that at least the Rally survives (secretly hoping for all new maintenance friendly dual sport though :D , dominator (nx) used to be 125, 250, 500, 650, maybe they surprise us)
  12. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    Honda just expanded into the Dualspot Enduro market with CRF450L. Personally, I think she is 90% Enduro.

    Anyway. Honda may actually expand into the sub 400lbs ADV TOURING MC market for 2019.
    The current Rally is 90% styling. And made for light riders.
  13. Peelcrf

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    Hi there I am trying to find out what Michelin ac10 tyres sizes will fit my 250 rally with no problems please can anybody help.
  14. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    Greetings.

    Try the owners thread.

    It should be on the first page of thumpers.

    If you can't find it click, unignore to trouble shoot.

    Have a good'n.
  15. Peelcrf

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    Thanks sorted now
  16. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    Looks like the KLX 250 is already showing up as a 2019.

    The Versys X 300 is a 2019. $100 more.

    Honda is still showing all of the 250s as 2018.

    :hmmmmm
  17. tigersyndicate

    tigersyndicate Been here awhile

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    Last 2 weeks ride with my crf 250 rally.. feel much better with all mods by syndicate motor indonesia workshop
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  18. tigersyndicate

    tigersyndicate Been here awhile

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    With 17-19 tire set up, make this bike better at road
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  19. teebag

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    That low fender looks
  20. tigersyndicate

    tigersyndicate Been here awhile

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    Thanks... more rally looks for me haha