HONDA CRF450L MEGA THREAD

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by KICKNBACK, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. eakins

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    Not even close.
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  2. montesa_vr

    montesa_vr Legend in his own mind

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    The 690 feels a lot heavier because it weighs 346 lbs., at least according to the road test in Dirt Rider last month.
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  3. montesa_vr

    montesa_vr Legend in his own mind

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    No, the 690 is exactly 57 pounds heavier than the 450L "ready to ride."
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  4. gt750

    gt750 Been here awhile

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    I've heard there is less gravity in Austria, hence the discrepancy!
  5. Bitingdog

    Bitingdog That's not my dog

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    In what universe is WP Xplor better suspension than Showa? Also, when measuring apples to apples, the 450L is almost 60 pounds less than a KTM 690.

    The 690 is impressive enough to stand on it's own merits. You don't need to gild the lily
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  6. tex68w

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    In no way, under any circumstances, in any country, planet, or universe has any WP Xplor every come close to the ride, handling, and quality of a Showa or KYB. To even jokingly make such a claim is asinine.
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    I can vouch for that.
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  9. AdvNener

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    Guys that is like a 4 months old message which got already bashed 4 months ago :D
  10. tex68w

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  12. montesa_vr

    montesa_vr Legend in his own mind

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    True, but the road test that gives the actual wet weight of the 690 just came out, so it made for more satisfying fisking.
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  13. SloRonStinkypants

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    I wonder if Alexa could kick Siri's ass..
    I asked Google but she was an indecisive Bitch..
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  14. Muddy Thumper

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    First Ride;

    Put 50 miles of country and dirt roads (50/50) on the maiden voyage last weekend. I have been riding Harley street bikes for a lot of years. I had more fun than I have had in a long time riding the L. Came home with a big grin and told my wife that I might just sell one of the Harleys. Can’t wait to really get out into some back country. Yeah, the seat sucks, but I’m still grinning.
  15. tex68w

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    Then the purchase is well justified. Let me know if you're ever up to coming over the border into Texas again to ride.
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    I have seen your pics of riding on the beach and that looks like fun. I'll let you know if I get out that way.
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  17. Minidragon

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    If anyone wants a cush hub for their L or wheels..
    Warp9 has started their B. Friday online discount 20%,code is warp92019bf .
    Sales end Sunday midnight.
    They're closed Tmrrw/Fri.
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  18. roadracer10

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    Has anyone used a Reckless 10 or similar yet ? Curious how you like it and how it did around the exhaust? Love to see some pics.
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    What's heavy shifting ? If a guy is capable of standing on one foot a trials bike is easy to shift.
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  20. tex68w

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    I have a Giant Loop Mojavi which is a direct competitor to the Mosko Moto Reckless 10, it's ever so slightly bigger than the Reckless. IMHO this size rack/frameless luggage is the perfect match for this size and style of bike. I pack light, always, having a heavy load out with Uncle Sugar brings a whole new appreciation to the theory that ounces equal pounds. I only pack what I absolutely need to make it home or at least give me a chance, there are no "rainy day" items in my pack, this isn't Baja/life or death.
    These bags are small enough to not get in the way, light enough to not have much of if not any impact on the weight and handing dynamics of the bike and they can carry your kit for a single day of riding or if you pack light and/or supplement it with another small bag (fender, handlebar, rear rollup duffel, backpack, vest, etc.) it can easily support you for two to three days.

    Both the GL Mojavi and the MM Reckless 10 come with heat shields that mount to your muffler and provide an elevated support that keeps your bags from coming into direct contact with the muffler itself. I think that the Reckless 10 has some innovative design features and is likely the most robust system on the market, but I also have some complaints after owning another one of their systems that pushed me towards the GL Mojavi instead. For one, their material is extremely stiff, almost to a point that it's a detriment because it lacks flexibility. Secondly, they have far too many straps, they are redundant and cause you to have to either permanently modify them or lash and keep them tied up, that's annoying and unnecessary. I prefer the quicker access to the contents of your bag that the Mojavi provides as well.

    Does the Mosko stuff look more appealing, sure, but when put into use I think that the GL is a better system even if it does look less attractive and somewhat dated and less appealing aesthetically. But don't take my word for it, contact both manufacturers and see what their return policy is or find a vendor that accepts returns without issue and give them both a try for yourself. While I personally prefer the GL in this direct comparison, I will say that both bags and companies in general are at the top of the market and I would easily pick either over the Wolfman offerings.