Honda NHX110 (LEAD, Elite)

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  1. DaBinChe

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    New tires are always harder to remove/install then used. The more used the easier, less material less stiff. Only had a few rope plugs fail on me, mainly from a non-round hole. Make sure you don't over ream the hole when using the reamer. When installing the plug is should be pretty hard to insert. Using vulcanizing cement helps lubricate while inserting but also helps seals once it vulcanizes. Requires riding after use for the vulcanizing to take place. I almost never cut down what is sticking out of the rope plug, instead I insert it till about only 1/4" sticks out.
  2. Inoplanetyanin

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    Thanks for feedback. Yeah, the last one was just a hole from a small nail that went in completely perpendicularly. I didn't even have to use the rimer. The plug went in tight, used the cement. It held for a few weeks/month and then let go. I think the plug just dropped inside the tire, maybe because I cut the excess off. The inside of the plug was elongated and seemed to have been pulled by the centrifugal force as it was spread tightly along the circumference of the inside of the tire.

    Might give them another try. Certainly ok for emergency road repair but doesn't seem to be a good permanent repair. For that the tire should probably be fixed from the inside. :)
  3. DaBinChe

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    Alslo the quality of the plug matters too. Slim brand plugs don't work as well. I find the plugs that work better are the brown, looks like poop, plugs. Not the darker almost black plugs. There are also thinner and thicker plugs too.
  4. DaBinChe

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    So I been noticing Elite2 is getting higher gas mileage then Elite1. Elite2 is getting what Elite1 got before...back before 50k miles, think before using Kitaco final drive taller gearing. I didn't put in the Kitaco final drive until well after the first SCB in 2014. The taller gearing was too much and increased the load on the motor, like going up hill on a taller gear instead of down shifting to a lower gear. Uphill the lower gear REV is higher but load is easier on the motor while higher gear REV lower but load is higher. This higher load uses more gas. So on my commute, gas needle is between half and bottom quarter by end of day. With the Kitaco it is between between bottom quarter and E. I'm still wondering if using only the kitaco and back to OE size rear tire would be ok...
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    Yeah, that might be the case. I remember the brown plug seemed to have held up but every black is leaking.
  6. vanbang

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    Warmly welcome from Hochiminh city, Vietnam.
    Bought 2nd at odo 40k km, and fully functional until now, except for IACV replacement at 50k km odo.

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  7. DaBinChe

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    Welcome. You got one of the best 110cc scoot available. 51k KM is nothing. You sould check your engine sub wiring harness. Chances are that the wires rub bare and shorted causing your IACV to act up...or at least the check engine light code will say it is the IACV. I have documented that on this thread and on my youtube channel.
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  8. vanbang

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    My IACV had been sticky, and the iddle speed over 2300, 2500rpm when I down the throttle, no MIL light flasing. So, I replace the new one, clear all in ECM, reset and everything seem good again.
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    Wonder if it is the quality of the gas in Vietnam....maybe less cleaning additive.
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    My damaged IACV...

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  11. DaBinChe

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    Wonder how that got damage? It is internal so nothing hit is. Only thing I can think of is something got in there and only way that can happen is if for some reason the airfilter got a hole in it or was bypassed. Same on the fuel side, if fuel filter got a hole or got bypass. Mileage wise looks like it is used often enough where old gas won't mess with it, unless there was a period of time when the bike sat and old gas gunked it up. Only other reason I see is if some opened it up and messed it up, it is very delicate. I suppose it can wear out too, from lots of "cold starts", this means lots of short trips and stops for long enough to cool down to have a "cold start" condition.
  12. bob59

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    Picking up a 2010 Elite 110 tomorrow hopefully in San Francisco.

    1. Concerns: only has 1900 miles which means it has been sitting a lot. Plus is that is has always been in a garage and not on the street like most scooters in the city.

    2. Looking for new tires. Not much for the front for the 90/90/12. Suggestions? Any fitment issues with the 100/90/12? Brand? Model?

    3. Do the drive belts age out or more of a miles used.

    4. Best place to source parts?

    Thnx
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    1) I have two of these scooters. One had 367 miles when I bought it at the beginning of this year the other had 3,500 miles when I got it last year. Low mileage wasn't a problem. My biggest concern was it having bad gas in the tank--it was fine. Get a PDF of the SERVICE manual and do ALL the maintenance. Start fresh from there.

    2) I found a stock front size (90/90-12) Kenda K348 at partsforscooters.com. I put a stock size Michelin on the rear.

    3) I've yet to do the drive belts on either of my scooters. I will be inspecting them, and likely replacing them, when I do their annual maintenance in a few weeks.

    4) partzilla.com bikebandit.com and amazon.com have been my go-to parts and fluids sources.

    That's my 2¢. Hope that helps.
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    If DBC puts his stamp of approval on a bike, you should buy it. He has had 2, so that's two stamps of approval.
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    Once you get the Elite110 you'll notice and compared to motorcycles the small lite wheel and short wheel base will feel very twitchy and unstable. It is not, it is very quick steering and you'll really like it for dense urban runaround, it'll be the best thing that you have ever gotten for this environment. I don't think anything can keep up with me in the urban jungle except another small scoot.
  17. Inoplanetyanin

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    100% agree on parts and other advise.

    Low mileage is not an issue.
    I would do a valve clearance check. Belt definitely needs to be replaced. Bike is almost 10 y.o. Unless you don't mind the possibility of it breaking 500 or 10000 miles from now. When they are old and dry, they can be expected to break any time.
  18. bob59

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    Made it home with no issues. Started on the first bump after sitting for 3 months per seller. Put 50 miles on it today. Plan to do the same tomorrow and then fill with fresh gas. Has a total of 1557 miles now. Tires have no cracks but look dry so am ordering new ones tonight. Not a spec of rust or corrosion anywhere which is not the norm for scooters in San Francisco.

    Thanks all for the advice and tips!!

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  19. DaBinChe

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    Put some SeaFoam in the gas till you get to 2k miles should clean up the fuel system.

    Check to see what the top speed is on the flats and downhill. This gives an indicator of drive wear.

    Welcome to having the best small scooter in the US market.
  20. bob59

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    Let the projects begin. First being a Cyclops 10.4 LED headlight. I hate not being seen. I have put one of the these on all my bikes. Not that I ever ride at night, but what a difference. Also day time ops, cars can see you much better. Use code "imback" for 10% off.

    1. Took it out on the road and a solid 51mph on the flats and downhill. You can feel the limiter kicking in. Up hill it drops down to 45 ish and on the steep SF hills 38-40mph.

    2. Going through the manual for a bike that is 10 years old with now 1600 miles looks like: all fluids, valve check, new belt IMG_0507.jpeg