How do HD clubs pick their "road captains?" (rantish)

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by LuciferMutt, Mar 13, 2011.

  1. concours

    concours WFO for 47 years

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    This just isn't valid. Go as slow as you (your group) want... (or as is legal) but, like EVERY driver on the road is required to do by law and courtesy, KEEP TO THE RIGHT AND LET PEOPLE PASS WITHOUT HINDERING THEM.
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  2. HammerMacGreed

    HammerMacGreed Long timer

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    You are, and I see your point, but in all fairness most of the rolling roadblocks with overly loud exhaust and incompetant riders seem to be on HDs. That's not a knock against Harley or everyone who rides one, it's a knock against a particular phenomenon in the USA about midlife crisis guys buying bikes too big for their solo skills, little to no group riding skills and inconveniencing and endangering the general public. If I were to bring up assholes doing wheelies down the freeway at 110mph, I'm sure most here would be thinking young guys on jap crotch rockets. Stereotypes happen after a preponderance of evidence...
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  3. concours

    concours WFO for 47 years

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    AMEN, Brother, AMEN!!!:1drink
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  4. dillon

    dillon Low Speed, High Drag

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    I dont care who you are or what youre on, 30 bikes in a group is dumb. In fact I think anything over 10 is dumb. And I dont care what youre on or in, the left hand lane is for passing. If your group is too big to allow right hand lane travel without causing cluster fucks at on ramps, well, youre dumb.
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  5. JohninVT

    JohninVT Long timer

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    Riding in a group doesn't make you an asshole. Riding below the speed limit doesn't make you an asshole. Riding in a group, riding below the speed limit and making it difficult for people to pass makes you an asshole.

    Riding in a group, below the limit, making it difficult for people to pass while dumping raw gas out your exhaust pipes and deafening woodland creatures in a 5 mile radius from your open pipes makes you a frothy, yeasty, attention seeking cunt with a soaring arrogance out of all proportion to your smelly axe wound.

    Holding up traffic is the mark of a true attention whore. Get the fuck out of the way. Get in the right lane. Allow people to pass.
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  6. Duckworth

    Duckworth Taking the high road

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    I don't get the whole "keep the gigantic group/formation together at all costs" thing. What is wrong with riding your own ride and meetin up at a prearranged place and time?


    Group riding sucks. Group destinations are fun.
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  7. duck

    duck Banned

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    RoadCaptain would be a good fake nOOb name.:D
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  8. windmill

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    I agree 100% but I also feel the same about the cocksuckers on sportbikes using the street like it is their personal race track. Tailgating or making stupid passes if anybody dare do less than 10+ over the speed limits, loud raspy exhaust pipes, and all sorts of dangerous behavior.

    Sad but true, a large majority of riders are self centered attention whores and it aint limited to pirates and squids.
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  9. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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    It is in many States.
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  10. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    I'll agree to that readily. Something about motorcycles attracts morons.
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  11. Josephvman

    Josephvman I'm the Decider Supporter

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    The bias is because 9 times out of 10 when you run into a rolling chicane of fucktards they're on Harley's.
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  12. IgoFar

    IgoFar Been here awhile

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    What the HELL is the world coming to when bikers actually ask for a police escort?:hmmmmm
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  13. Vanishing Point

    Vanishing Point Lengthy Member

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    I was always under the impression that they were chosen for being the meanest looking or the biggest so that civilians that were annoyed by their behavior would be sufficiently cowed that they would run home and complain on the internet rather than actually letting their views be known at the time the transgression happened.

    And it seems to work.
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  14. Voluhzia

    Voluhzia iExplorer

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    Can I pass a HD with loud pipes doing 15 on 35 on twisties and 54 on 45 on straight stretch? Every time you get an opportunity to pass the MF'er speeds up, and every time you get to a sweet switchback the same MF'er slows down to a crawl.

    I......can!!! But what are the consequences?
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  15. squonker

    squonker Stupid is the new norm

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    :lol3

    :rofl
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  16. King_Panther13

    King_Panther13 Been here awhile

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    What are you suggesting, that he should have yelled at the window at them for being morons? Or maybe waste even more time following the funeral procession to their destination and then challenging a big group of morons who thought that they were big bad and cool?
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  17. dustycrust

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    I do believe anything over 5 bikes in BC is considered a parade, therefore it needs a permit, and is illegal otherwise. i forget where i saw that, (the new riders manual maybe? i cant remember) I find riding with one other person stressful sometimes, i cant imagine being wedged in a group of 30. too many bikes in the bubble. :huh
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  18. Vanishing Point

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    Well you have to admit it would have been a far more entertaining thread if the op had had the stones to do that.
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  19. DAKEZ

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    Just treat them as a moving cone weave course and slalom your way through the group. :deal
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  20. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    I'm amazed at the attitude of people who drive below the speed limit when their vehicle is capable of doing it. It's not just the pirates, car drivers like to do it too. I saw a letter to a (car) motoring magazine where a chap said he liked to always drive at 10mph under whatever the posted speed limit was and he hated the 'aggressive' attitude of other vehicles that he constantly encountered. The magazine quite rightly responded that the problem most likely lay with him and he should consider pulling in to allow the faster vehicle to pass, particularly if they have been following him for some time. My view is, if you've got another vehicle biting your ass, maybe they're a speeding dickhead. If you've got two, maybe they're racing. When you've got a stack of twenty vehicles behind you and an open road in front of you EVERYWHERE YOU DRIVE, EVERY TIME YOU GO OUT, you're the problem.

    Roads are for getting places. If you want to drive below the speed limit and you're not in a hurry, you should still accept that overwhelming the majority of road users do want to get somewhere as soon as possible and let them pass. If you're not capable of driving at the speed limit, when conditions and road surface are good, you shouldn't have passed your test. These days in the UK, failure to do the speed limit when it's safe to do so is one of the things that will stop you from getting a pass mark in your driving test. This is particularly true of the bike test where "making progress" is seen as one of the main reasons for having a bike. They actually want to see you demonstrate you are comfortable reaching and maintaining the speed limit. Consequently, it's not a problem you see much amongst younger people who passed their test in the past 15 years or so.

    I have even seen in Northern Scotland (offical, government placed) signs that say, "Slow drivers frustrate other drivers and cause accidents. Pull over and allow faster vehicles to overtake." This is completely the right attitude in my opinion.

    I have serious reservations if on today's congested roads in Western Europe whether non-essential (IE anything other than things like public transport, heavy goods vehicles or agricultural machinery*) vehicles that are incapable of doing the speed limit should be allowed on a given road.
    If your classic car is only capable of 45mph, fine, you can take it out, but only on 30 and 40mph limits, not on a 70mph motorway. You're clearly not in a rush, so if this means you have to take a more circuitous route, so be it. I think there should be exceptions for scooters and push bikes (off the motorway), so long as they keep in to the left as overtaking these vehicles is considerably easier/safer.

    It's funny, I saw the results of a poll on the public's awareness of traffic signs a couple of years back. 100% knew what the "Speed Camera" warning sign meant. 0%(!) recognised the sign for minimum speed limit. Perhaps the reason for this is because I have never seen one outside of a text book and think that they do not exist "in the wild". Time to reintroduce them, perhaps?

    *I would categorise juggernauts that take up 2 motorway lanes and require two outrider vehicles with flashing beacons as a special case. I think the nature of what they're carrying makes a huge difference. If it's something government-related, fair enough, but often it's things like prefab houses, recreational boats, etc. In the latter case, they should only be allowed on the road between midnight and 6am.
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