I bought a very underused 08 dr650 in Jan. Been working on making it my own. Still had factory tires, the infamous Deathwings. Today was a nice day to get out here on PA so I decided to take a quick trip with my son around town and then a ride around the hill on some dirt roads. It's been wet here...real wet. First patch of mud I came to was a colon clencher. Got a little squirrely, but was able to get through it and figured the rutted up no maintenance road was more the issue. Came down a township road next and hit a patch of that greasy mud, no getting around it so I went through it. I was not prepared for how bad those tires handle and came real close to putting her down. Rear was sliding a bit but the front didn't wanna hold any kind of line, at all. Got a foot down and was able to keep her up but came down on it hard enough it jarred me good. Those tires def deserve the name, I have never had anything feel like that before, would've thought it was ice it was so slick. Next purchase will be some d606's, and in short order.