I stopped by the Harley Davidson shop.

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by tessalino, Dec 12, 2014.

  1. bwalsh

    bwalsh Long timer

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    That's great but a serious question here. Since this is his first bike, does he actually know how to ride it?
  2. blk-betty

    blk-betty bam-a-lam Supporter

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    He took the MSF course about 2 weeks ago and passed the full DMV license endorsement with the riding test, so in that light he knows how to ride it as well as anyone else with no prior experience who has completed the MSF course.

    Took the course at the HD dealership on the new Street 500 and the dealership let him borrow an old Buell Blast to ride over to the DMV for the driving test the week after he finished the MSF course. Then when he purchased the Sportster they refunded the cost of the MSF course.
  3. TxRoadDog

    TxRoadDog Shut up and ride

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    I ride a Harley... it doesn't do half of what you say except leak oil, break heat shields, and rattle bolts loose. I hate it and I love it at the same time, but would have no problems losing my ASS on a trade to get back on a ricer.
  4. scfrank

    scfrank Old farts riding club. Supporter

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    Its interesting he's into high performance cars and bought a Sportster. Does he know about the Tuono? Probably would be a mistake as first bike.
  5. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard Instagram @motopossum

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    Sounds like what I have done. I was the head mechanic/manager of a performance shop specializing in high output 4 cyl Jap cars ( my preffered weapons were SR20 powered Nissans). I still own a Sentra that runs low 11's on pump gas. I also own 2 Sportsters.
  6. PlainClothesHippy

    PlainClothesHippy Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.

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    This is a good example of how a dealer can combine rider education with customer service as part of a marketing plan. It is any wonder he bought his bike and riding gear from them?
  7. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Bregan D'Aerthe

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    But would that car survive Drag Week? :D
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    Nothing but positive comments about the Ural. One of the salesman there use to sell Urals in PA somewhere. He wants to buy one.
    Don't currently own a Honda but do have three Honda monkey bike clones. Left them in NC for the winter. Get run over riding one of them around here in FL. Great in the mountains of WNC where there is less traffic and saner drivers.

    You mean this Z50 clone with sidecar? More fun than a barrell of monkeys.

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  9. Ginger Beard

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    Absolutely!! I actually built the car for autocross and road course events. You can drive this car 8 hours to a track, swap wheels, beat the snot out of it and then drive it home all the while getting 30mpg on the highway if kept under 70mph. Took a lot of trial and error to get a reliable 11 sec 4 banger (5 engines and 6 transmissions to be exact.) . Truthfully I can think of easier ways to run 11's. :lol3

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  10. ruin

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    My MSF BRC was in the back parking lot of an HD dealership as well, and upon completion I was given a bunch of coupons for gear shopping there with the certificate. Lost on me since I was riding my own bike to/from the course on my permit and already had gear.

    I do wonder how many people take the course and don't know what kind of bike they want though. For those that already know they want an HD (or have one), it's certainly a good way to get them in the door.
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    We talked a few months before he took the MSF course and he told me he really wanted a Sportster. I was quite surprised given his interest in perfomance gas and professionally trained as a ME. In his case he wanted a HD before he took the course.

    The bike has aftermarket pipes and is pretty loud which again surprisingly he absolutely loves the sound. I was taling to him last night and told he could buy a set of take-off head pipes and mufflers for not much money to make it quieter, his response...."no way, I love the sound"......go figure.
  12. bwalsh

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    I had to ask as I've seen a lot of folks buy a bike on impulse, without taking any course then proceed to wreck it. After completing the MSF course he still had to take a DMV riding test? That's good on HD to refund the cost of the course when buying there!
  13. Red9

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    Here are some more truths.:1drink

    07 Fatboy with 37k no leaks, no repairs, no visits to the dealer

    05 Ultra Classis with 58k, no leaks, no repairs, no visits to the dealer.

    Thosse are my personal experiences

    I believe many of the issues your police dept. had with their rides were because no one treated them as though they owned them...
    I've never heard of any of my friends having a problem with saddlebags vibrating open. Now I have seen saddlebags fly open because they weren't latched to begin with...:lol3
    I've also heard of bolts loosening and experienced that myself on Harley's, Honda's, Yamaha's, and my old John Deere. But they came loose, they didn't come out because any motorcyclist with respect for the machine he rides and owns and his life depends upon, makes regular inspection part of his/her riding experience. Again... Maybe if you owned the ride you wouldn't treat it like such a piece of shit?:norton
    Same with the weld coming loose on the pipe. Does no one inspect the damn bikes? Welds don't just break suddenly. They come apart over time....

    By the way, I made no assumptions. It was obvious to me from the beginning you would rather an adventure bike. It was also painfully obvious that you were slamming the Harley despite the fact no one there is doing proper maintenance.

    I would suggest before they give any of you a ride they teach preventative maintenance and respect for the machine but.... probably would take away too much time from parade riding.:lol3
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    I was thinking of a maintenance issue also. My 2011 Electra Glide has had no issues in 40,000 miles, but I look it over regularly and take care of it. It also rides better than my 1150 GS, and is my favorite of the two by far.
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    You should enter it. Be aware, though: 11's aren't fast enough except in the bracket class! (The top three Unlimited cars ALL ran 6's at 200+ last year!)

    One nut ran low 9's in a 1979 Mustang hatch...with 800+HP from a turbo 4-banger! There wasn't a 4-cylinder class...so he ran the small-block class, and beat the V8's. :huh The car tripped the 60' clocks with the REAR tires and carried the front tires to about 100'. 9.04 at 148MPH...not bad for 178ci. (He was cranking a staggering ~280HP/L!)

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    Oh, yeah: the guy's grandfather bought the car new.
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    One of my friends just traded his '09 Ultra with over 100,000 trouble free miles in on a new one. None of the guys on the other forum I belong to have had issues to speak of, certainly none of the ones he mentioned.

    Meeting those guys is what allowed me to venture back into a Harley dealer to shop for a motorcycle, and I'll be danged if I didn't buy one too. :D








    From all of that stuff you posted about the fleet bikes all I can say is....

    you must have a really chitty car...:lol3

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    That's the one! I haven't seen any of those in our neck of the woods so I've been looking for a cheap Ruckus to hack... Got two grand daughters under the age of seven and one great grand daughter under the age of three. I need something age appropriate for them... and me..:deal :lol3

    Me and many of my friends that ride Harley's have had similar experiences, usually riding to around 75K or so trouble free miles before trading in on newer machines.

    If the posters saddlebags are flying open there's a definite indicator of inattention or poor maintenance. Police bags don't latch like conventional HD bags. The pucks cam over very solidly, I've run over 50K on a Police Edition Road King without so much as a wiggle from the bag lids. They are very secure. I ride in rain a lot, can't stand sitting around waiting for a sunny day to ride, never lost any of my lights in rain or snow. I'm told the Japanese bikes are much more reliable than HD, not sure how that's possible since my experience of over 40 years riding HD has been to expect solid reliability from them particularly post 1983.

    Edit: I did just remember I owned an 05 Electra Glide Ultra that developed a leak from the primary, I pulled the primary twice and had the dealer replace everything including the inner primary case and never was able to stop that leak. The dealer told me the bike was going back to the factory to be torn down and rebuilt. They, the dealer and the Motor Company treated me very well thru that episode and the bike that replaced it was perfectly trouble free.
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    So... how long have you been living all alone in your cave? :lol3
  20. PlainClothesHippy

    PlainClothesHippy Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.

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    Who said anything about proving themselves...it's called humor. It's fun. My best friend and I bust on each other all the time, yet I truly believe him to be a better person than me. I'm not trying to prove anything.