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ICEBEAR VISION 150 (Zuma clone)

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by WR450FADVn, Apr 12, 2020.

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  1. WR450FADVn

    WR450FADVn Adventurer

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    I have always wanted to do some sort of longish trip on small bikes. Since being stuck at home I have been thinking a lot and figured this would be as good a time as any to try and accomplish this goal. So I called up a buddy of mine that just retired from the army and with basically zero convincing he was in! The goal is to buy a machine and get it set up for 5 days of camping in the mountains around VA, WV, and NC for $1000 or less. So naturally we bought the cheapest Chinese scooters that we could find:jack I mean this is supposed to be an adventure!
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  2. Glenn247

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    Which scooters and from where?
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  3. The Virginian

    The Virginian YouTube n00b Supporter

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    Let's see whatcha got planned!? :ear
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  4. WR450FADVn

    WR450FADVn Adventurer

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    The scoots we bought are ICEBEAR VISION 150cc. They are a copy of the BWS 125 from around 2014. We paid $703 each delivered to the door!

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  5. WR450FADVn

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    I have had many bikes but never any Chinese stuff but this little thing is sweet! I took my time assembling, checked, and lock tighted most of the hardware. From my research people have trouble with the vacuum petcock so I picked up some manual ones as well as quality fuel lines. Pulled all the electrical connections including handle bar switch’s and added lots of dielectric grease.

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  6. WR450FADVn

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    The rear for some reason has a ridiculous fender extension that’s twice the necessary size. 26844726-EE9E-4F54-B724-5955967792AE.jpeg 2198CA29-233A-4929-A4D4-2A1BB3A9CB11.jpeg 02619695-410C-43AF-B6FE-7719D6D1A91F.jpeg
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  7. WR450FADVn

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    After the first little ride of 61km (lol) I decided to put some quality Honda oil in and added magnetic drain plugs.

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    The headlight output was really bad and more then anything I want people to be able to see me. A bright light definitely helps! The taillights are led and I’m very happy with how bright they are. I found some h4 replacements on amazon that fit perfectly! I already had a ac to dc converter from superbrightleds.com the was supposed to be for my KDX. The light out put now is awesome!!!! The little top light is just a DRL but I swapped it as well.

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  9. WR450FADVn

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    In that crazy mess of wires I found a black wire that just dead ended. It’s putting out 12 volts DC when the key is switched to on. I ordered a usb outlet on amazon that sorta looks like it belongs. 3D7C2958-00B2-4012-B87E-1D042FA7F3C4.jpeg
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  10. WR450FADVn

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    We have been kayaking for years and have a bunch of dry bags of various sizes. We plan to use those as panniers. I may fab up something to hold them. Also want to add some sort of highway pegs preferably ones that flip out of the way. We are starting out east of Richmond VA and will head west into the mountains then south from there. Are plan is to only ride roads without a line in the middle. Might do some of the BDR but don’t want to get to crazy since these are just scooters. But I have riden the trails around my house and was impressed with the capabilities. Y’all let us know what else we need to do to these bad mama jamas!
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  11. scootaloo

    scootaloo Been here awhile

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    Lookin good.. $700 chinese scooters delivered to your door and a long ride ahead. What could possibly go wrong? Good luck and thanks for sharing.
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  12. Steve_h

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    Change the rear end oil too. Many times what ships is some sort of something that sort of resembles oil and sometimes it doesn't even resemble it very much. Some of the manufacturers use decent oil. Only real way to know is to change it. The chinese engines are quite tough. It's the electricals and other mechanicals that usually give problems. Sounds like you're being proactive and taking care of loose bolts and wiring connections before they become a problem. One other thing...if the tires are anything like the ones that were on my chinese scoot when I got it, they will only last about 2k miles, especially the back one.
    My original belt only lasted about 1500 miles. Check the inlet and outlet for cvt cooling air. You might need to fab some sort of filter to help keep dust out if you're doing a lot of dirt/dirt road riding. I've heard it'll eat the belt and rollers more quickly than regular street riding.
    Be careful with the plastic body panels. They tend to be sort of thin and easy to break off mounting tabs.
    There's not much excess electrical output so be sparing with additional lighting if you plan on adding any. The usb connector is a great idea.
    Nice looking scoot. Hope it serves you well on your trip. It should last you a long time.
    Good luck. I'll be watching for the ride reports.
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  13. JerryH

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    It will be interesting to see how CVT scooters (and Chinese ones at that) hold up on dirt roads. There should be two openings in the CVT case. The front one is where air is drawn in by the fins on the front pulley. It is usually where the filter is. However the filter is not really meant for off road use, and IMO trying to install a filter that would keep out dirt from riding off road would likely reduce the air flow enough to cause overheating of the belt. The rear opening is where the air that went in through the front opening comes out, and it almost always has no filter. On pavement it doesn't really need one, because you have air under pressure being blown out, and that will not allow dirt to get in. I have no idea how that would work on dirt roads. There are a lot of parts in a CVT that could be damaged by dirt. The pulleys, belt, rollers, clutch, and the spring loaded assembly behind the rear pulley could all be ground up by dirt. But I guess the only way to find out is to try it and see what happens. Hopefully you will not be stranded in the middle of nowhere if the scooters break down. I would definitely carry some Ride On, a 12V compressor, and a pair of needle nose pliers in case you have a flat tire.
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  14. WR450FADVn

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    I have had afew go karts and mini bikes over the years with eBay cvts that where pretty reliable. These Gy6 engines are popular on newer go karts as well. I will definitely keep my eye on it though. Probably upgrade the belt to a name brand and carry the original as a spare
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    Added a cell holder and seat cover today. Verdict is still out on both...

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    Looking darn sharp! Like other have said replace and and all fluids with quality oil, brake fluid, etc. I would also replace all the fuel lines, they're notorious for drying and cracking in months. Other than that the batteries are know for giving up the ghost early. This bike chose is a good choice. Icebear i many notches above the rest. Did you get them Cajun Maddogs?
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    They came from Mega Motor Madness . Com
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    This looks like fun. I am a big fan of small scooters as well as small motorcycles. I have ridden all of my scooters in the dirt from time to time and have never had any issues with dirt getting in the CVT. The biggest thing that would concern me is water getting in. For that reason I have avoided water crossings.
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  19. tortoise2

    tortoise2 Been here awhile

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    Vendor link.

    What are the first 3 VIN characters?

    Does the carb idle speed adjustment screw have a crimped cap similar to this image?

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  20. Bar None

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    I have the same scooter also from https://www.megamotormadness.com/ice-bear-scooters

    So far so good with only 300 km on her. Performance is good enough to keep up with local traffic. Speedometer reads 50 MPH while speedometer app on cell phone shows 47 MPH.

    Also changed out the engine and rear gear oil and added a magnetic drain plug to the engine.

    Haven't been able to register it because the tag office is closed so as was suggested carry a copy of the MSO and the bill of sale plus my insurance card in the under seat storage. So far no problem knock on wood.

    Use a sheepskin for a seat cover/sun insulator. Fancy pansy foldable milk crate, cell phone holder, and trailer hitch are some minor mods. Also added some
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Grip-Pipe-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 for my big hands.

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