Importing a bike from the States to Canada

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Duster929, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. H e a d N o r t h

    H e a d N o r t h (take the high road)

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    Agreed on keeping all documentation - they are a suspicious bunch (rightly so, as it seems many people try to undervalue the import).
    I kept and showed all documentation (including a printed copy of the entire correspondence chain that identified final agreed price). That worked out OK, though they did look at me funny.
  2. Jbone11 11

    Jbone11 11 Long timer

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    :roflGeez...can you blame them? The fact that the man wants a piece of a bike that's had tax paid on it many times over is laughable at best. Tax on import, tax at the MTO, Tax every year you own it, tax at the pump....gemme a break.
    CBSA are suspicious because it beat into them....everyone's a crook and/or a terrorist. I've worked with them abroad a bit....some are great folks, most are not.....but thats another topic.

    Bottom line is this, if you have your paperwork in order and a bill of sale....hand written or typed should not factor as either is just as easy to produce and no more "authentic" then you will be fine. Keep it reasonable. If the bike is a 10K beast and you roll up with a 2.5K bill of sale prepare to answer some questions or take a hammer to the fairings to show them why you got the deal :imaposer

    If you got the Tax Nazi, dont sweat it. If you are courteous and polite and give them zero grounds to nail you, and your paperwork is solid, there is piss all they can really do. Dont be affraid to talk to supervisors either...just make sure you ask to be present before they speak to them though...I learned that one the hard way.
  3. manybike

    manybike Omnipresent

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    Actually...CBSA can do whatever they want. Importing a vehicle is a privilege...not a right (just like your drivers license)
    I believe they have the right to value your vehicle at what they consider fair market value regardless of what you paid if it appears to be too good to be true.
    For the difference in GST or whatever it is just best to be straight up.
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  4. CanadaBiker

    CanadaBiker Been here awhile

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    Has anyone ever imported a 'project' bike into Canada? Say an old BMW airhead. And then get it registered as 'unfit'? I get confused by the Canadian Tire step if the bike is just a frame, block and baskets of parts.

    Thoughts?

    Edit:
    - I just read that vehicles over 15 years old are exempt from the RIV program.
    - that leaves getting the ITN #
    - I've read that the Canadian side doesn't really care if you have the ITN# or if the U.S. title has been stamped by the U.S. side.
    - I've also read that lots of guys don't bother with the ITN #, since you don't actually go through US custom when exiting the US
  5. bmwnewbie

    bmwnewbie Been here awhile

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    I just imported my BMW into Canada. You get an ITN from a broker I used AD Rutherford out of Winnipeg, it cost me $50.00 and you then go through the usual importation process.
  6. Lornce

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    Just going through this now with a '93 BMW from Minnesota.

    Never had to deal with an ITN# before, this is something new. Do you need to hire a broker to acquire this number? Not having much success decoding the AES Direct website...

    Anyone know?
  7. bmwnewbie

    bmwnewbie Been here awhile

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    Yes, you have to use a broker they charge you $50.00. I Used a broker out of Winnipeg, AD Rutherford, good people to work with, they get you the ITN and send you the package to send the US Customs.

    bmwnewbie
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  8. Lornce

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    You know how to get an ITN# without a broker?
  9. Lornce

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    You mean the ITN# is basically your number that you will retain and use for all future transactions?
  10. Lornce

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    Can anybody recommend a Southern Ontario broker they've dealt with to get an ITN number?

    :dunno
  11. bmwnewbie1

    bmwnewbie1 Adventurer

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    AD Rutherford is in Winnipeg and I did for through phone calls and email and I am in Calgary.
  12. SorryEh

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    I'm a customs broker in Mississauga if anyone needs help with this PM me.
  13. bmwnewbie1

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    What is your fee to get the the paperwork to the US Border Point?
  14. SorryEh

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    PM sent for info
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    A day earlier and I could have used your services.
  16. canamac

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    Would anybody have info on getting a recall letter for a BMW? I hear it can be quite pricey........thanks...John
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    Max BMW provided one for me with no charge
    I had the previous owner contact the dealer to get the letter though. As i understand they only charge for the letter when it is being used for export.
    The previous owner said he was selling the bike, but didnt say it was going to be coming to canada
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  18. manybike

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    This is from 5 (or more) years ago but the recall letters from the dealers in the US also had a statement on them that said "not to be used for export purposes". Not sure if that is still the case. Several people I know used these letters to import their bikes and they were accepted at the border.
    To get a so called official recall letter you were supposed to get them from your local dealership...yeh right. One dealership I know of was charging a high price for them...and they were under no obligation to even give you one.
  19. bmwnewbie1

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    I have imported numerous BMWs into Canada. Just make a condition of the sale that the owner has to provide you with the "recall letter", or as the heading on the paperwork states WARRANTY VEHICLE INQUIRY. If the dealer is a dick about it, some may be, just have the owner remind the dealer he is the owner of the bike and he has the right to that information.. The note on the document reads 'THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT TO BE USED OR RELIED UPON FOR IMPORT OR EXPORT PURPOSES AND IS NOT TO BE DISTRIBUTED OR SHARED WITH THIRD PARTIES" I have ignored and RIV has never had a problem providing the RIV paperwork to me.

    Hope this helps,

    bmwnewbie
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  20. manybike

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    Yep...that is my experience also.