Hi guys, THIS IS NOT A HARD PANNIER VS. SOFT PANNIER DEBATE THREAD The hard vs. soft panier debate has been raging for eons. The biggest plus to hard panniers being security. The biggest advantage of soft being safety in a fall (especially odd-road). Got it. What I am interested in is real-world, actual first-hand examples of injuries caused by hard panniers that could have been avoided if soft panniers had been used instead. Not "I know a guy who knows a guy who had his pannier bite him". Personally, I have had a ton of offs while riding with my happy trail cascade panniers off-road, and have never had one of them injure me.