Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. JRWooden

    JRWooden Homeless motorcycle vagabond ... and ... loving it

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  2. Hill Climber

    Hill Climber Been here awhile

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    I just read on Baja Nomads about a group of riders (bikes, razors and other off-road rigs) stopped at gunpoint from riding any further past what I presume are, a series of ranches.
    Can anyone identify the sign in the video as to it's location?
    Facebook video:


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  3. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    Yes, this seems to be more and more common. I had not run into this in Mexico previously, only in eastern European countries. If the ATM calculates the exchange rate for you, decline it (it seems to typically be an additional 10% in their favor in rate, before adding the normal fixed ATM fees). Sometimes it means you'll have to find a different ATM. Somebody told me he ran into this in Los Cabo, but I forgot to ask which ATM that was. Never had that happen in one of the big bank's ATMs in Mexico.

    Another exchange related issue I came across in eastern Europe recently, when you pay with a CC, they offer you the choice to pay in local currency or their conversion to USD. Same drill, their conversion to USD is always much worse than your card will charge you, so ask to pay in local currency. You'll get a better exchange rate from you bank/CC issuer.

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    There MIGHT be at least 50 people trapped in a bus? Not knowing the area, I guess it could be out of cell phone zone, but you'd think that even if they can't get around the slides in ATVs or burros, somebody could pack a CB radio and scramble in on foot to where a bus load of people MIGHT have been trapped for 24 hours, see about medical emergencies and possible heli landing sites. Arm chairing this, I know. How long is the stretch they are looking at? Too far to be feasible walking, even with the stakes so high? And medivac copters not common in Mex?
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  7. MAXVERT

    MAXVERT O.G. on da O.C.

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    Thanks for that SkizzMan .
    Must have been a gully washer that brought the derrumbres down .
    I should be through there in the first part of October . Generally I don't ride that route to Bato . I prefer
    turning at Samachique and riding to the intersection with the Urique Bato high road and riding down to Bato .

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    Coming from the South the Guachochi Yoquivo Bato route is a great ride down into the canyon .

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    Can't wait to get back . I've mapped three new , to me , routes south out of Las Barrancas through to
    Durrango .

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    Looking south , ride over and through everything in the photo , continue for a couple of hundred k's find gas keep riding!
    Max
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    MAXVERT O.G. on da O.C.

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    Contact me for more information on this family of artists and the annual arts fair
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  10. MAXVERT

    MAXVERT O.G. on da O.C.

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    Espectacular !! just what I'm looking for .
    Almost bought this in Oaxaca in 2008

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    Always looking for local artisans doing great work .
    We'll be spending most of November in Oaxaca . Interested in seeing his work.

    Max
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  11. JRWooden

    JRWooden Homeless motorcycle vagabond ... and ... loving it

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    Just wanted to add a random comment:

    A buddy and I rode into Oaxaca from the north yesterday.
    The 135D leg of the trip was a very nice ride in!
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    Head south on 175 from Oaxaca. Their taller is clearly marked on the southbound frontage adjacent to San Martín. Call ahead. They speak some English. Tell them JD sent you

    https://goo.gl/maps/CnEw8gisy8F9MKPF7
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    bdesj Been here awhile

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    I wanna go to Oaxaca. Just need a layoff notice :D
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  14. Cal

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    Max
    After visiting his shop go all the way to the coast on 175! great road. May see you down there, we will talk the first of November
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    MAXVERT O.G. on da O.C.

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    Your fired get out of here . Does that work ?

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    MAXVERT O.G. on da O.C.

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    We're planning on renting a house in town for a few weeks , looking for one with an extra bed room . Welcoming
    IMS riff raff with a few exceptions :jack . Planning on lots of rides and mole cooking .

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    No need to rush things. After the Fuentes taller head over to Lalo’s for some handmade Mexican shine
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  18. stormdog

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    Speaking of Oaxaca, my understanding is that there is some great mountain biking in the area. Have any of you done any mountain biking around there? Or for that matter anywhere between the states and Costa Rica.
    I will be working my way to Costa Rica in January and am having trouble finding places to ride along the way.
  19. JRWooden

    JRWooden Homeless motorcycle vagabond ... and ... loving it

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    I'm in Oaxaca now heading out shortly. @Cal -- On your advice I'll take 175 to the coast then head along 200.

    QUESTION: What would be my best crossing point into Guate???
    I am headed to Panajachel as the first real stop within Guate.

    I've crossed at La Mesilla before and it was very straightforward.
    I've crossed at El Carmin and it was a real Charlie Foxtrot

    So... any input appreciated - time is NOT of the essence on this trip.... :beer
  20. JRWooden

    JRWooden Homeless motorcycle vagabond ... and ... loving it

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    Sorry ... me again ... on another note:
    Riding around lake Atitlan on Rt. 11 -- is there still a risk of a holdup?

    If it is still a risk ... I understand that at one time the local police would provide an escort for ~$20 USD...
    Will they still do that, or is the far side of the lake unsafe by vehicle?
    I'd like to ride from Panajachel to San Pedro but am indifferent to which side of the lake I go around on rt. 11 (to east or to west).