Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. stormdog

    stormdog Long timer

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    The one thing to know about Mexico and orange juice, is to stay away from the growing area during harvest season. I was making my way south along the gulf coast one time and the grossly overloaded trucks backed up at every Tope made it a real grind.
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  2. Yinzer Moto

    Yinzer Moto Long timer Supporter

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    Is it frowned upon to just go around them? We used the topes as an opportunity to get around slow traffic. We were also riding dual sport bikes and the topes were fun to jump off of.
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  3. stormdog

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    Oh passing a couple on each tope is pretty standard for sure, but after the first couple dozen it got old.
    Plus there is the spilled fruit to dodge.
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  4. Animo

    Animo Been n00b awhile

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  5. shiryas

    shiryas Dragon with matches

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    I am planning a trip down to Panama and back this fall, late Oct into Nov. Targeting for 5 weeks with a pretty open schedule, a lot will depend on international borders being open and local situation with C19 (how the locals feel with tourism, I dont want to be the Ugly A bringing fear to a small town). Looking for input about a couple of ideas. While a month+ seems like I lot, from reading reports and input from inmates, travel is pretty slow down there and there is a lot to see.

    - Blast through Mexico to get south and spend quality time in the "other" countries. (I can get this amount of time off about every 4-5 years. Easily 3 weeks off every year for a good ride. Since Mexico is closer I can do more focused rides in the future)

    - Borders closed but Mexico open = 5 weeks in Mexico

    - Down one coast and up the other in 5 weeks. Given the distance and time am I going to see anything? (Five years ago I rode from Colorado to Prudhoe and back. I understand the differences, much more daylight hours, better roads, less congestion, it was easy to catch up the miles for the layover days)

    - Suggestions for immunizations, vaccinations. I am up to date on everything including C19, from the expats is there are there any specific shots for the tropics?

    Cheers, Chris
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  6. Animo

    Animo Been n00b awhile

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    Mexico does not have vaccine requirements. If you’re vaccinated for C-19 you’re well ahead of the game.

    Mexico is vast and travel is slow. Many towns are addictive and travelers often extend their stay for days. In some areas you just don’t want to leave.

    Borders opening is up in the air, who knows what will happen between now and October.

    A 5 week ride in Mexico will allow you to see many beautiful places. To give you an idea of the vastness of Mexico, I rode for 6 weeks from Playa (Cancun), and only made it to Durango before I had to turn back and head home. The way back to Playa took one week.

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  7. Blind Warrior

    Blind Warrior Lost in the Ozone

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    I rode to Panama and back in 2012. On the way back from Panama my stops in Mexico were San Christobal de Las Casas, Veracruz, San Miguel de Allende, Mazatlan, and finally Hermosillo. That was flying on the quotas, not seeing anything, up at dawn, down at dusk riding.
  8. WileyRTW

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    Central America is ok, but I have spent 10x times the amount of time in Mexico than
    I have all of C.A....so I recommend you focus on Mexico instead, as Animo mentioned travel is slow, and you can see a huge variety of things here in Mexico. Nothing wrong with C.A. I had a blast, but Mexico is amazing, and 5 weeks is nothing.

    Some countries require a test just before entry, but it is easy to get all around C.A. now that everyone has opened up. I can only speak for Mexico during pandemic times but you will not encounter any negativity from traveling, try and be respectful as there are plenty of idiots giving us a bad name, but it is very chill here.
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  9. WileyRTW

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    I should also add I said this same thing you did many times when forced to skip things when driving to Argentina. I decided my time was best spent taking it slowly and only made it to Colombia in 2 years, and I have no regrets on this. BUT back to the point, I didn't really get back to Mexico until this year, which was 10 years later! I had several smaller trips down here for a month or two, but with work, age, responsibilities, this only gets harder every day as life will absolutely get in the way...so take your time and enjoy it rather than blast through just to say you got to point X.
  10. jimmex

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    Topes are designated moto passing zones.
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  11. Sjoerd Bakker

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    Contrary to Stormdog I find the orange picking season to be absolutely totally an enjoyable experience , but then I am not in the mind frame of "making my way " anywhere so spilled fruit, dead dogs , dropped automotive fasteners and median merchants are part of the scenery . I do practice passing at topes if I wish . With no fixed destination or schedule there is no drang to keep the wheels moving ever forward .
    I make a point of stopping occasinally at orange assembly yards to see how that work is done and get to talking with some of the drivers , farmers and workers a the yard . Invariably they will load me up with a shopping bag of big ,ripe ,juicy ,delicious oranges and I can have a feast or two . I make sure to have a paring knife with me and the quickest way to enjoy an orange for me is to slice it in half, then into quarters and chomp right in ,Two mouthfulls per quarter and all that is left is an orange skin . I can put away 6+ oranges quickly (urp, ). A quick rinse of water from my bottle and I am good until the next batch .

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    Alamo ,VER, ,Mex 180 , one of the major load consolidating yards in this prime orange growing district .Small scale growers pick in the morning and bring their loads here and socialize while waiting . Fellows working in the yard come out and grade the loads as to variety and tell the drivers where to unload .
    Over the years I have noticed that in Florida there has been a growing Mexican community who have taken on growing oranges there at a small scale and they run small loads to assembly stations just like back home .
    DSC00780.JPG DSC00787.JPG Larger orchards hire more pickers and they get a free air conditioned ride home at the end of the daily shift which seems to end in early afternoon for many . All the oranges they care to eat on the way , and most everybody still enjoys them regardless of the hard work it is .
    DSC00794.JPG DSC00796.JPG Another consolidating yard , wholesale buyer at San Fernando ,VER ,Mex 102 west of Alamo . They make sure that the big truck is "full'' ,not worrying about piddling things like axle weight limits . Camion sobre pesado ??? Nunca , senor !
  12. Sjoerd Bakker

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    Now as to the questions by Shiryas . My condolences to you for your pitiable time off regulations , but if that is what you have , go for it . Five weeks is barely enough for a first exploratory ride down to Panama and back to Colorado .That is assuming that all the borders will be open and Covid tests , if required , can be had within a suitably short span of hours . WHAT kind of motorcycle will you be riding ?
    Get the usual travel related vaccinations- tetanus ,hepatitis ,yellow fever , - it never hurts to be prepared . malaria should not be a problem in the dry season and if you avoid time in really swampy places .

    Your thoughts of using the long vacation for the longer trip is good , but even then you need to allocate your time well for best outcome . Rather than the general " down one coast and up the other” it would make better sense for you from Western CO to head directly south down the middle of Mexico . Look at the map , Central America , ALL OF IT , is in longitudes to the EAST of Baton Rouge ,LA ( Okay , except a few square km of Guatemala) .
    Start off by going to El Paso and pick up the federal highways that are taking you always south and a bit east . Maybe as far as the DF , then Mex 95D to Acapulco and Mex 200 all the way to the Guate border east of Tapachula .
    From El Pass to the Tapachula border of Guatemala is 3000km +/_ 3.74km (:D approximately ) That could take you four or five days of brisk riding all during daylight to cover 500 km per day . It doesn’t sound like much but you will understand . Never ride at night . Also figure on an equal time for the return trip leaving you with 3 1/2weeks to explore all of CA . Just enough to do a survivable tour along the main roads (all paved and often excellent quality ).
    If you intend to enter Guatemala at El Ceibo you can follow parts of Mexican federal highways near the north coast of southern Mexico . Do not expect to find a highway set which constantly gives views of the ocean
    Depending on where you intend to enter Guatemala you can decide which "coast " to follow once you are deeeeep into Mexico . If you intend to also visit Belize your time is not enough .
    Smart of you to delay the exploring of nearer parts of Mexico for the years when you get only three weeks off . Even then you will find that the exploration and fun will increase rapidly to fill those time pockets to bursting .

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    I've stayed in that room with the window across the street. Hostal del Companero is our go to in Guanajuanto on the MexTrek "Afterparty" excursions. Peter Shadman has a place there now but pretty sure he is in San Miguel this week.
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  17. stormdog

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    I was sitting on a park bench in Jalpan de Serra a few years ago, and every once and a while a small branch would fly out of a similar but smaller tree near by. The arborist had climbed up the tree and was trimming it from the inside.
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  18. currenv

    currenv Been here awhile Supporter

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    Friends,

    I'll be taking my GTO plated bike from Ann Arbor back to San Miguel de Allende early next week. (It wound up here after an emergency termination of a Baja tour when COVID hit.)

    I'll be crossing at Laredo, likely next Tuesday morning, 6/28. Any advice on the best crossing to use these days given current conditions -- downtown Laredo or Columbia Crossing? Also, does anyone know if the police are still running escorts from Banjercito out to the federal highway and, if so, if they're still leaving about 10 am?

    Thanks for any intel...

    Vinnie
  19. Sjoerd Bakker

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    Don’t know if the police escorts are still needed , but in January 2020 they were there all day and no specific time schedule. It seemed to depend on volume of traffic . They told us to wait a while for a number of cars to accumulate and when there were about five they decided to go because they did not expect a rapid buildup of more waiting , balancing volume with reasonable wait time.

    Choice of crossing place time depends on which highway you want to follow south.I like crossing at downtown Laredo, and like to traverse downtown at my own unhurried pace to then take Mex 85 Libre south. Going through COLOMBIA for purpose of saving time on 85D is more time consuming , out of the way , than a slow city transit . No way or excuse for getting lost in city , routes are well signed and straightforward .
    On my rides when I want to follow state highway NL1 south I take the COLOMBIA BRIDGE crossing ( COLOMBIA , got it? two times "O") because it feeds straight into the Tamaulipas spur that becomes NL1 south to Monterrey , with BUSTAMENTE CANYON as an optional visit ,
    NL 1 is a lightly traveled scenic highway . Or I may take NL 30 /Coah. 30 west turn off to MONCLOVA and then south to SALTILLO etc etc etc
    Live it up and mix it up with different routes on every visit .
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    That tree looks great too!! :D
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