Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Animo

    Animo Been n00b awhile Supporter

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    I would do the same, in person. Got to immigration for your visitor visa, if they ask, tell them you’ll be in Mexico until December 15th, so they stamp you in for more than 30 days.

    Then go to banjercito for the temp import on the bike, I would bring my original title and a couple of copies. It’s easier than it sounds.

    Unfortunately, we all have to wear face masks nowadays, because a smile and a respectful attitude goes a long way with authorities in Mexico. Say, “ Si Señor or si Señora” a lot when they ask you things, they love that.

    On another note, I found this today. It’s a cost calculator for Cuotas and gas costs. Pretty cool.

    http://app.sct.gob.mx/sibuac_internet/ControllerUI?action=cmdEscogeRuta
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  2. JuddS

    JuddS Been here awhile Supporter

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    At least pre-covid, in Chicago and NYC and a few other locations you could get a 24 hour turn around if you visited the passport office in person and brought your flight itinerary with you. I did it once in 2014.
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  3. WileyRTW

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    I believe this is because Canadians do not get titles, the registration is what is used for ownership.

    You can still expedite, but I have read comments from people that due to covid they have waited up to 6 weeks depending on which office they used....due to this
    I suspect it will still take a bit even if you expedite, but maybe worth the try.
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  4. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto Supporter

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    I always take my passport, my passport card, my original title, and my current vehicle registration.
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  5. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    I used to take the title in the olden days. But in recent years, all that was required was a current registration (which you carry with you anyway). To save time and money, I always have several copies of everything (registration, passport, license, even CC).

    https://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/denver/index.php/non-mexicans/temporary-importation-of-foreign-vehicles

    Note that under documents for proving ownership, it says one of those listed.

    There is an old Mexican joke about going to get some permit and they ask you for copies of receipts of everything in your house, including the fridge (which would be the equivalent of everything and the kitchen sink...), because the copier at the San Jeronimo crossing charged like USD$1/copy which is really an abusive rate.

    Gustavo
  6. bykergrrl

    bykergrrl Stop the destruction of the USPS Supporter

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    NOPE - need special dispensation nowadays for 1 day service. A friend was able to get it done this week BUT it took a call from the Representative to US Congress from our area to get her the appointment. (Los Angeles)
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  7. shiryas

    shiryas Dragon with matches

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    @Gustavo,

    Thanks for the reply, I agree on copies of everything and in various locations. Being able to give whomever the piece of paper they need helps ease things along.

    Cheers, Chris
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  8. ScotsFire

    ScotsFire And then a drifter rode into town... Supporter

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    I would still bring the original title but only produce it if it is asked for, as I was last winter (though I did not have an original registration... long story).

    I also would not expect any issues getting your FMM in person. Just make sure you put a date of leaving Mexico prior to the expiration of your passport. The main reason I use the online FMM app is so the agent at the border can read my writing. ALWAYS keep your FMM receipts, no matter how you procure them.
  9. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra Supporter

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    I take my title but resist showing it. One time when crossing into Baja, one of our group of riders kept all papers including the title in a stack of papers he pulled out when we got stopped at the border crossing. He got questioned thoroughly about his intentions with the motorcycle - the border official knew he needed to sign the title over to a buyer for a sale and was concerned the rider was going to sell the bike in Baja. Contributing to the suspicion was the fact the motorcycle was on a trailer which is what we frequently do on group rides in Baja. So now, I have my title and copies of it, but keep them hidden away and resist pulling it out just to avoid a similar scenario. Just my registration has worked every time since.
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  10. RockyRue

    RockyRue Long timer

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    When going down to Baja with a trailer with 5 bikes on it, all the owners stood next to the trailer with their CA registration and photo copy of driver license in a ziplock baggie.
    Owner's name and VIN visible on one side
    Driver license visible on other side.
    Less than 5 minutes per bike to get everything into Mexico.
    It also helps if you get white "crayon" and mark the VIN number so it stands out better.
  11. Kiko

    Kiko Been here awhile

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    The other joke is that the proliferation of paperwork required by the Mexican government is the reason why Mexico City is sinking.
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    I always bring my original stuff plus copies of everything. During the TVIP process last time south, the agent noticed that my name was misspelled on my bikes title ( Randall instead of Randal ) it took a supervisor to okay getting the permit.
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  13. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    I forgot to mention that I just did a new TVIP application a couple of weeks ago, online, and submitted just a copy of the registration, no title. Already got the paperwork back with the permit.

    Gustavo
  14. noshoes

    noshoes soñando con México

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    I spoke with four different agents at the POE in the past few days. Nobody knows yet. :dunno
  15. Turkeycreek

    Turkeycreek Gringo Viejo

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    I spoke to the CBP guy in the booth Friday at Naco. He was actually unaware that the border was opening on November 8th. He told me I would probably know what is going on before he would.
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  16. Animo

    Animo Been n00b awhile Supporter

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  17. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    I'm replying to my own post because it's related. I was thinking about the online FMM procedure and I remembered there was some limitation on when you could apply, turns out it's 30 days before your entry date (i.e you can't do it at the same time as the TVIP if you are more than 30 days away from date of entry when applying for TVIP, that's why you need the pre-authorization number they ask for).

    Since I didn't have the link saved, I Googled it. There seem to be a whole cottage industry of middle-men (and women) who setup sites with names like visasmexico, fmmonline, etc. Don't go there. Let me repeat - DO NOT GO THERE. Not only those aren't the official INM site, so I am not sure what they do with your data (incl. all your personal information and CC number). They also seem to charge a hefty fee for the "service" which isn't clearly labeled until you start looking at the fine print. Not reading the fine print could cost you 4x the actual cost of the FMM fee. :deal


    These are the only two sites you need for the FMM and TVIP:

    https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html

    https://www.banjercito.com.mx/registroVehiculos/

    INM Pre-authorization:
    https://www.inm.gob.mx/sae/publico/en/pre-autorizacion.html


    Buen viaje,

    Gustavo
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  18. Bubwheat

    Bubwheat Long timer Supporter

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    I cross at Santa Teresa and Columbia Bridge(Laredo) almost every time I enter or exit. I am also pretty computer savvy for an old guy, but I refuse to go online for these documents. It has never taken me any more time to walk into the building and have everything done right there, than going online. I see absolutely no advantage at all for going online. It also helps that these two crossing points are away from town, mostly commercial traffic, and have very little tourist traffic. A couple of times I crossed, I was the only one looking for paperwork.
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  19. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    If you cross off-season, in the middle of the week, sure. Some years ago, I went with a couple of friends on a ride in February, they were Mexico virgins, so it probably took a bit longer than it should, as I was walking them through the forms, and we were in and out of the Santa Teresa border crossing in about 20 minutes.

    Good times:
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    If you travel around the holidays, especially the week before Christmas and New Year's when the paisanos are going back home in droves for the holidays, Santa Teresa becomes a 3-4 hour stop.

    Santa Teresa line just to get across the border, into Mexico the weekend before Christmas (note that you can barely make out the US Customs and Immigration building on the left, it's still so far away from where traffic stopped):
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    This is the line for TVIP:
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    Just getting the FMM (I had done the TVIP online, but at the time, you couldn't to get the FMM online too) took close to an hour, standing in 3 different lines - one to get the forms, you fill them out (takes a bit longer because there is always someone that needs help, borrow a pen, or something), another line to pay and then you go back to show you paid and they stamp you paperwork and passport. My wife was talking with a lady in one of those lines that snaked out into the parking lot, she had been standing in that line for over an hour. And she was still outside the building. Finally, if your car/bike isn't blocked in by people double or triple parked, you can start making your way into Mexico... :ricky

    For the Thanksgiving trip, as I mentioned, I already got the TVIP online, in a few days I'll be doing the FMM online too, then you just pop in, get your passport stamped (hopefully in less than an hour... :doh) and we are on our way. Even better, because when we go back for X-mas, and the lines will be even longer, I don't even have to stop... :deal

    Gustavo
  20. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto Supporter

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    For me its worth a separate trip ahead of my annual holiday trip just to get the FMM/TVIP done and not have to worry about it when its so crowded. I live a half day drive from border though.