Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Tricepilot

    Tricepilot Bailando Con Las Estrellas Super Moderator Super Supporter

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    Reclusorio Preventivo Oriente: pack a weapon to Mexico, you get a free tour of the place. It has only one thing in common with the Hotel California
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    That strikes me as being a VERY accurate comment.

    When in the Southeastern US I carried a legal pistol in the tankbag or luggage, as appropriate.

    Down here I don't carry because I never know when I might want to take an impromptu trip across the border.

    Guns (or ammunition for that matter) in Mexico is a real recipe for trouble. :eek1
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    "Ya no estamos en Kansas..." :D
  6. G-Tex

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    This is quite a powder keg of a thread...

    My personal experience has been that I have only had a couple times in Mexico where I was off of the bike and felt uneasy. I have ridden through CJ going to Copper Canyon, TJ to get to Baja and Laredo to get to Galeana. I have also passed through Presidio/Ojinaga, but that doesn't even register on a danger scale...basically, as I found out on my last ride through TJ, anything can happen and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it...

    I was in Tijuana and it was THE TRAFFIC, not the narcos that were the problem.

    From Change of Plans '09: Cabo Edition

    "Guy
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    Basically, I was riding the Border Fence road in the right lane about 3 car lengths behind a car. In the left lane, slightly ahead of the car in front of me was a large van. The van passed a pedestrian who was in the median of the highway. All of a sudden, the guy darted out in an effort to cross to the other side of the road. The car in front of me slowed slightly, but hit and ran over the pedestrian. I had to swerve drastically in order to move around the downed man. The car in front of me hauled-ass and I was left with a choice...

    Do I try to track this guy's license plate down and get involved with the police, or do I try to help the man lying in the street? Ultimately, I was so shaken up that I really couldn't ride for a couple minutes. I stopped and headed back towards the scene.

    The man was a panhandler who was just trying to make it across the street to work that side. When I walked up on the scene, he was surrounded by other panhandlers who were crying and generally freaking out. I felt very sad about the whole situation, but there was literally NOTHING that I could do at that point, so I loaded back up and made it to the Bank near the Playa that I mentioned earlier..."

    My point...
    1) You are on a motorcycle in a foreign country...nobody knows who you are, where you are going, what you have in your 401k, or any other thing about you...unless you open yourself up...
    2) Although it has its fair share of nasty folks, Mexico is not filled with people out to get tourists.
    3) Activities like foreign travel and motorcycling have associated risks, risks that are often distilled out of the ride reports for the sake of readability.
    4) More or less, anything can happen at any time...
    5) Be prepared to react to the situation on your own.

    Hijack Over...Buy the Ticket, Take the Ride.
  7. Arte

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    :bow thank you! wise words.

    now lets all ride to Mexico !!
  8. PirateJohn

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    A-men!

    Arte, as a point of education - doesn't stopping to help an accident victim potentially subject a foreign tourist to being held as a material witness? I've heard that - although they say that the food is usually good at the jailer's house. :lol3

    Any truth to that story?

    Here in the States many places have Good Samaritan Laws. We can potentially be arrested if we don't stop to help. I don't know about the specifics of Texas, however.
  9. G-Tex

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    Pirate John-

    Make no mistake...I did not stop to help or render aid...I was so shaken that I couldn't go further and I was naturally curious about the situation...

    Texas does not have a good Samaritan law similar to the type you talk about...we have a law that actually protects people when they do render aid to someone.

  10. FotoTEX

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    My answer would be NO it is not safe. But where is? The Border towns are bad, get inland and you meet the great folks who live there. With so much great riding here, I feel no need to ride there. Others love it. Each to his own.
  11. Arte

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    As far as I know, in Mexico there is not a law that allows the police to arrest someone that did not stop to provide help on a traffic accident.

    if you actually stop to help, you will be asked if you saw what happened, if so, then you might be required as a witness. but would apply for anyone, not only foreingers.
  12. Tricepilot

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    Warning: Mexico may be the only safe haven left!

    It may become overcrowded with gringos fleeing south...get there while you still can...

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    I hope so, I just quit work today and plan on hitting Mexico in a couple of months after wrapping up some loose ends here and working my way to the border.

    :clap
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    If you come through Reynosa then let me know. Imagine the Underground Railroad, only this time for gringos fleeing the states. :lol3 :lol3
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    Thanks Arte! When we ride together again I'll ask you about the nuances of those laws. :clap
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    Sounds like just what I need right now, thanks for the offer. I haven't planned where to cross the border yet but I assume it will be from TX since I'll be coming from the east.

    Originally my plan was to head to Panama and back but I think the last thing I need right now is an itinerary since this is a trip to clear out my head...maybe I'll just bum around Mexico and Guatamala for 4-6 weeks and see what happens.
  18. Arte

    Arte Pata de Perro

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    Well, in couple or three hours Me and along with some local friend riders and couple US riders will be heading to here: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/18201610 for the weekend.

    You know, camping, cook some steaks on the grill, have some (or much)beer:D , some fishing probably, etc.

    I'l let you know if was safe.

    Arte
  19. PirateJohn

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    See, that's another problem with Mexicans. They have too much time off from work. :lol3

    Have fun guys. I really, really wish that I could join you. I'll just have to be content with riding across the border after work tonight for my regular cigar run.

    :wink:


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  20. PirateJohn

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    The Yucatan may be calling you Amigo. That's where I'd be heading right now if I had the time.

    Drop me a PM and I'll be happy to show you around.