Jeep "Gladiator"?!

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Kommando, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Kommando

    Kommando Long timer

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    Why would Jeep name a Wrangler-based pickup "Gladiator" rather than "Scrambler"? The original Gladiator was a full-sized pickup, based on the FSJ Wagoneer and sharing some parts with it. If they wanted to name a new pickup "Gladiator" it should be a full-sized pickup, and probably based on the Grand Cherokee, IMO. The new convertible pickup is much more in line with the "Scrambler" name, IMO.

    I also don't understand the people comparing it to the other mid-sized pickups and saying things like "It'll never sell.", and "This other pickup is JUST like it.".

    Uhh...No. It's not. Nobody has sold a convertible 4WD pickup in this country since the Dakota. The new Jeep pickup is like the Wrangler, in that it's a niche vehicle.

    The Samurai isn't offered here. Toyota messed up when they didn't offer a convertible FJ cruiser, or 4Runner. GM and Ford no longer offer convertible 4WDs either.

    Now Jeep is going to be offering a crew cab, 4WD, convertible that can tow up to 7000lb+. With the coming Ecodiesel, one gives up a bit of capacity, but it'll probably get over 30MPG, and it won't be so humongous that it won't fit into the drive thru ATM like a Tundra...although I wish Jeep had offered pickup YJ/TJ versions like the CJ8 Scrambler here before making the Wrangler wider. Anyway...NOBODY else offers anything close to this niche. Why not? A convertible FJ or Bronco would probably sell. A convertible Tacoma or Ranger would probably sell...and as much as I've enjoyed my Jeeps, I also like Toyota's general engineering and build quality.
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  2. soyanarchisto

    soyanarchisto Long timer Supporter

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    I still want one.
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  3. XPADREX

    XPADREX Funslinger Supporter

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    I would have snapped one up back in 2013 or 14.

    Honestly, I preferred my shorter wheelbase JK for off roading, and my Ram is a better short bed pickup for the money.

    Incidentally the price point of Wranglers period has gotten silly.
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  4. Ol Man

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    Because they could.
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  5. jimroid

    jimroid Been here awhile

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    Jeep.com must be afraid to put the new Gladiator prices on their website. I have been waiting a long time for a worthy replacement to my Comanche. Loved that truck. (and the original battery lasted over 10 years.)
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  6. Kommando

    Kommando Long timer

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    Some people have been mentioning the Comanche as an alternative to the probably expensive new Gladiator. They've also said the same about the old J-truck Gladiator, but neither was offered as a crewcab convertible. Even the CJ8 was only a 2dr.
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  7. Kommando

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    I also prefer the SWB of the YJ/TJ, as well as the simplicity, for offroading. It's nice to have the towing capacity and bed of a pickup though, and I'd be willing to sacrifice a bit of off-road capability for some more truck utility without the enormity of a full-size truck, especially if I can get it in a convertible crewcab 4WD configuration. I'm eager to see the MPG specs of the Ecodiesel Wranglers too.
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  8. PK2

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    As soon as (or soon as possible) the Gladiator hits Oz with the v6 diesel in 2020, there'll be one in my driveway.
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  9. JustKip

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    Too long. Didn't read

    OK, so I did read. Is it the unibody construction, or the identical to Wrangler track with that makes you think Grand Cherokee would make a better pickup? I'm calling bullshit either way. The Wrangler IS more of a truck than a Grand Cherokee, and isn't any smaller.
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  10. larryboy

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    Back when trucks were 25k I said I'd buy a Jeep pickup, but at today's prices there is a zero chance of me buying one.
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    What you don't feel like spending 40+ thousand on a rig your going to go beat the shit out of in the desert?
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    Or that will be in the shop monthly.....
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    Bingo, Guy here at work bought a brand new Challenger.....man those are good looking cars....but spends more time in the shop then in the driveway. He is wanting to trade it for a mustang but no one will give him much for it....I have not looked into resale.

    The truck does look cool I will give them that.....and I bet is is going to start at around 30k with one you would want being in the mid to upper 40's.

    I already have two Fiats not sure I need another.
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    I'm totally on the outside of this, looking in: my '08 2500 has never let me down through nearly ten years of oilfield & construction use.

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    2whlrcr gooligan

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    I want one, but I can't bring myself to spend $50k on any vehicle and by the time used ones get to half that...I'll be dead.
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  16. KirkN

    KirkN Long timer Super Supporter

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    Sorry, but with that name, all i can think of is that movie line (or standard question from downstairs in Jo Momma) "so, Jimmy, do you like gladiator movies?"

    :lol3
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    My wrangler is 3 years old and only been in the shop for water leaks.
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  18. BillsR100

    BillsR100 Happy Paleoflatus

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    Read the comments in this youtube video of the Jeep Gladiator super bowl ad.
    I also cringed when I watched this and I'm not even a jeep fan!
    Complete fail by Jeep advertising. Jeep has said it was (past tense now) a REAL "mid 60's" jeep gladiator, no CGI.

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  19. Sootgrinder

    Sootgrinder Been here awhile

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    I really want one. I don't care what name they put on it. BUT. I'm sure that the pricing will prevent me from getting to own one. I really don't understand how manufacturers are able to keep prices of trucks so high. I have a really good job and I can't afford a new truck.
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  20. old scoot

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    Build a base model, 2 door, around 30 grand, and we will talk. 4 door 50 grand status symbol, I don't think so, not in this lifetime.
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