Kawasaki Versys-X 300

Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by shyam334, Nov 8, 2016.

  1. Trip Hammer

    Trip Hammer It's not the years, it's the mileage Supporter

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    I haven't been this stoked about a bike in a while. All within the last 48 hours or whatever since this was announced. If it doesn't come to the US, well.. that'd suck. Take my money, local Kawi dealer!!!!:lol3
  2. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    Lots of Inmates type that they do 80 all day on the MIGHTY DR. she has about 35 HP too.

    No thanks.

    If they take the 300 street bike gear rarios and make the 5th gear a little over geared and just over gear the hell out of sixth we can have some good fuel economy at 60-65mph.
    Which translates to better range.

    I really like the stock gear ratios and sprockets on the DR650.
    At 60mph you can go to fifth (last gear) and have plenty of acceleration on the highway.
    No wind and 1 up of course... with a 180lbs rider and gear.
    But we have 40 lbs of torque to work with. The 300 is like half that.
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  3. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    :scratch

    If the suspension is up to the task, I will back you and Master Yoda and retract my statement.

    It is 41mm

    I doubt it will be as good as the KLR.
    Front Suspension / Wheel Travel
    41mm telescopic fork/7.9 in

    Rear Suspension / Wheel Travel
    Uni-Trak® single-shock system with 5-way preload and stepless rebound damping/7.3 in





    35" seat height vs a 31.5" seat height

    :dunno
  4. painkilla

    painkilla MeTaL HeD

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    so what does this bike have over the Honda CB500x ?
  5. eakins

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    I think it will.

    1st of all the KLR can't last forever and this might be the replacement.
    Doesn't seem like modern 650 thumpers are popping up any time from Japan Inc.

    Many bought KLRs because that nice gen 2 fairing and this brings that same feature improved. I see alot of riders trending down to small motors who would be not turned off by the smaller CCs here in exchange for better highway manners not to mention modern FI.
  6. Vertical C

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    Lighter and 19 inch front?
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  7. eakins

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    Spoke wheels with an important 19" front and a better fairing are 2 stand outs.
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  8. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    The replacement for the KLR is a 500cc modern thumper that has the same engine characteristics of the 2008+ model and comes in at 360lbs.

    35 horse power and 40 lbs of torque.

    The 300 does not have the dual sport engine. The torque is like half.

    She does have a good 1 up frugal engine.

    If they put a good suspension package on board, it will be unicorn like.
    I hope so.
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  9. ag_streak

    ag_streak Tiene Ruta Cuarenta? Super Supporter

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    ^ ^ ^ No way a Versys 650 weighs 440 pounds. :deal

    Mr. Google say claimed wet weight of a Versys 650 without bags is 496 pounds. Just sayin'...

    Edit: Oops, 496 is the LT with bags. No bags = 476 pounds per the Kawasaki website.
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  10. eakins

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    Agreed, but where is that motor coming from?

    Kawi doesn't seem to be focusing on dirt bikes, dual sports or adv bikes too much these day so this might their only answer.

    The KLX250S went away...and never returned. Their woods bikes went away. They never had a big true adv bike. A 650 Versys adventure never materialized.
    Only moto & kids bikes live on.

    Kawi is a street bike company at its core these days, so I'm not expecting much to change from them. The KLR is just a left over sale remnant from the 90s.

    I am happy at what they came up with here when they applied themselves. A replacement KLX250 or ADV bike might appear but I'm not holding my breath.

    I think what we see is what what we will get from Kawi corporate & Kawi USA/Dealers know this and will want this bike.
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  11. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    So it is a 41mm fork.

    Would it be too easy to go with the 2015+ suspension?

    Front Suspension / Wheel Travel
    41mm hydraulic telescopic fork with stepless adjustable rebound and preload / 5.9 in

    Rear Suspension / Wheel Travel
    Single offset laydown shock with remote adjustable spring preload / 5.7 in

    I would be good with that.
  12. Vertical C

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    The crf250l doesn't really sell well. Not sure if a kl 250 would do well enough to warrant a new engine being built for it.

    The beauty of the versys 300 is that they have the motor.
  13. ag_streak

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  14. cyclopathic

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    19" front, spoked wheels. Probably cheaper. Less HP, better range.
  15. cyclopathic

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    I am waiting for SWM SuperDual certification and pricing, but otherwise agreed X300 looking good.

    AT and T7 may be better in every way than DL650, but unless Tenere comes under 400 in production trim, weight is still there and so are weight related limits.

    Would be interesting to see how capable pocket Versys will be. You don't need as much travel in lighter bike, and with proper bash plate you can afford to ground it once In awhile.
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  16. eakins

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    SuperDual EICMA video
    On SWM FB page
    https://m.facebook.com/SWM-Motorcycles-USA-1509674789341001
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  17. mattebox

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    Here you go. I aligned the rear wheel this time because I assume the 17" rims are the same size. The accuracy of these overlays highly depends on the scaling so keep in mind I might have gotten it wrong.

    Visually, the VX300 looks lighter from the side profile. The CB500X's middle section takes up a lot of volume, so it looks massive and heavy. The VX300 seems to have about 1" more ground clearance and a higher and more forward seating position. The VX pegs are several inches forward of the CB pegs. I think this will help the VX feel more like an off road bike compared to the CB. I hate the peg position on the CB. They feel like they are too far back (my knees hurt faster on that bike than on my dual sport) and when I put my foot down, the pegs always get in the way. The VX's exhaust also hugs the bike more closely. The VX's front fairing appears larger and might offer more wind protection. The CB500X's aerodynamics is one sour spot on that bike.

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  18. Traumat1x

    Traumat1x Been here awhile

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    Depending on Weight and Power here I can see a very good market for the Versys 300 and 310 GS.

    The BMW Thumper should be lighter although it does come with ABS. The Kawasaki should be the better longer distance / higher speed bike.

    VERY exciting to see all these lighter, smaller adventure bikes come out. The litte 250 vstrom twin is also announced now. Honda's 250 Rally...
    If KTM should launch an Adventure 390 they would have these beat imho since they would probably bring that in at like 150KG or less.
    I would take all of the others for the dependability department though. :D
  19. cyclopathic

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    Cost, components and packaging will be decisive factor. I suspect KTM 390 ADV could end up costing more than SWM, and while BMW could be cheap in EU it will not be in US. Just because of the dealers.
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  20. aa1

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    30kg lighter,and u don't have to take to rally raid, maby some sus' work.