KEEPING A BIKE IN EUROPE - WHO DOES IT?

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  1. kickstandsup

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  2. b4thenite

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  3. SgtDuster

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    I'm wondering how this is working out because it looks like the most simple way to "own" a bike in EU but I'm really not sure about the insurance part of the deal.

    Does you friend tell "his" insurance company when you "borrow" "his" bike? He surely says nothing about "leasing it", I know that my own insurance wouldn't let me do that here. But can you really borrow a friend's vehicle for months at a time and multi-country ride it without any issues? I'd be really concerned.


    Iknow someone in France who has the place, the citizenship and the will to "own" a bike for me for a future trip project. The insurance part has always bugged me though.
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  5. dooby

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    Hi Sgt,

    We can provide full service here at Lobagola MotoTours. From bike purchase on Croatian plates, storage, insurance, rentals to shipping your bike by air/sea.

    If you intend to ride your friends motorcycle, we can provide coverage for that as well.

    More info, you can email us: borderinsurance@lobagola.com

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  6. SgtDuster

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    Yeah, thanks Dooby.

    I read (almost) everything about your service already or so I thought...

    What has never been clear to me was the insurance part for this scenario where a EU citizen buys a bike for me to "borrow" and ride there.

    I studied almost every options, from flying my own bike, renting a bike, buying a bike to "borrow" someone's bike. I never understood it was possible to insure someone else's (paperwork wise, I'd actually pay for the bike) through your green card insurance.



    If I fly my own ride, can I just leave it in Europe somewhere? For years I mean (we don't have mandatory inspections here...yet). Be it with Wheatwacker, Dooby or a friend's garage. Don't you need to exit the EU with the bike after X months? To cross some border back? Or they just don't know since there are so many ways to exit the EU?
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  7. Bill 310

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    We use Stefan as well 7 years. Air Canada shipping.

    Frankfurt is cheaper to fly in and out of with a bike than Paris.
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  8. MichaelJ

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    Technically, yes. From a practical standpoint, unless you're using it as a daily driver, they don't seem to take official notice.

    I had a bike with Stefan in Heidelberg from 2009 through 2017 and am eyeing another one to perhaps send over as I type.
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  9. dooby

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    That option where EU citizen buys a bike for you is in many if not all EU countries considered against the law and fines are hefty. Never heard of anyone being caught though but these are facts. Govt wants tax money and tax evasion is not on the list of liked ones.

    Leaving your US plated bike inside Europe is also a case of braking the law if you spend more then 90 days inside 180 days time window. Nobody is checking these but we always recommend to clients to ride outside Schengen, Balkans, Turkey, Africa and this is how we plan their journey, timing and mapping taking into account the time of the year, how the roads are crowded, weather conditions etc.

    We’re the only provider that enables such legal framework that non EU citizen can be insured riding EU registered motorcycle or car/truck. Before someone jumps in and states that Adriaan Flux is also providing the same service, facts is they only do this for UK registered vehicles and on inquiry base when the price is defined on case by case.

    We’re working on Russia and Africa platform for the last 2 years and will have news ready for the next season.

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  11. SgtDuster

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    The more I read, the more I'm lost...

    This is the part that I never fully understood;

    A non EU citizen can't OWN a bike in the vast majority of EU countries
    You can't register (in EU) a bike that's not yours, right?
    A EU citizen can't buy a bike for a foreigner to ride
    But you provide insurance for non EU citizens to ride EU plated bike...



    Who owns the EU registered bike that I can insure through your service then? Is it considered renting?
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  12. dooby

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    All the above questions answer is yes.

    We're buying all the motorcycles for our clients through lease agreement.

    We're covering many fleet of motorcycle and car tour operators in Europe, like Celtic rider in Ireland.

    Our services are not only covering B2C but also B2B.

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  13. SgtDuster

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    OK, now I understand.

    That's the missing keystone I needed to wrap my head around.


    Thanks!
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