Kendon trailer for a kayak challenge

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  1. Little Bike

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    I'm hoping some of you very creative people can come up with something.

    I have a single, ride up Kendon trailer and a 17' fiberglass kayak that is extremely difficult to bring on trips because my car is a high top Promaster van turned into a camper. I can't attach a ladder to the back because live in an HOA which doesn't allow anything camperish to be parked outside - my van is a camper in stealth mode. I also can't carry a ladder on trips, no room. I have a lot of experience loading boats on tall vehicles, but nothing like this and with having done it a lot with other vehicles I know that even with a ladder it would be a spooky proposition loading and unloading on this van solo.

    The challenge:

    A bolt on rack that will allow me to haul a bike and kayak on the trailer together or just the kayak. If it's the kayak alone the fold up tailgate of the trailer has to be incapable of flexing up and down or the boat will crack. The boat is 17' so an extension tongue of some kind that will still allow the trailer to be pulled safely is necessary.

    If you feel like some problem solving - thanks! :-)
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    Make brackets for your trailer and off you go. I wrapped the bars with foam pipe insulation for padding to protect my sea kayak.
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  3. Ricardo Kuhn

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    A big old trailer to carry a ultra light kayak, those not make much sense..

    Carried like a banjo, attach to the back of the van, How much is the diagonal line from the bumper to the opposite corner, I imagine about 12 maybe 13, maybe if you lean it backwards using a Aframe, you can achieve the 17'

    Just remember the rules and speed limit for vehicles with trailers are a little different.


    What don't you tell us what the optimal transportation parameter are..

    How about something like this but for the whole kayak.
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    What about attach to the ceiling but inside the van,..?

    What about a shorter, crapier, sturdy to travel long distances..?
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    Tell the HOA to get bent.
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  5. Bump Stop

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    I would think about having brackets made to hang it on the side of your van.
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    That's what I want, but I can't figure out how to attach tall brackets to the trailer. I'm also worried about how the trailer will track with a 4 foot tongue extension.
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    Thought about that, but I'm not sure about road legality and the boat is about the same length as the van.
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    It's a 17' boat, wish it would fit in the back, but I'm about 7 feet is so short.
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    This is the bike trailer I have, would be great on a long trip to have a bike and the kayak.
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  10. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    I read the 17'

    But how much is the distance from the lower corner, to the opposite diagonal end..

    Pictures of the van specially with the kayak will help..

    This is to carry a step ladder but you get the idea..
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    It's probably 10 feet at the most. I think having the kayak extend past the van flat to the wind would put too much stress on the hull.
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    Kayaks are very aerodynamic. My kayak has been on top of my van for the last two months and I hardly notice it, even in high winds.
    Pictures of your trailer would be helpful. I know there is a way to attach ladder brackets to it.
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  13. Ricardo Kuhn

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    If is only ten feet for sure..

    So why do you want to carry your precious and fragile kayak all over the place, how about a ''beater'' that is strong and also shorter..

    If you where carrying 8 or 10 I think the trailer will be justifiable, but for just one boats is a totally pain in the butt, plus the chance of damage is far to much. Think in terms of weight, 300pound trailer, to carry a 30 pound boat, I have no idea about the numbers but for sure six or seven of them will still be lighter than the trailer..

    So what about the roof..?? Will it be to high, wind, what are the issues, the Stepfort wife network...? Fuck them.

    Note:i'm just asking questions to set parameter and does and don't

    Just for fun take a look at the rack I'm making using extruded aluminum profiles.
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    https://patineto.smugmug.com/Cars/3...-roof-platform/80-20-Polar-bear-platform-not/
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    That looks pretty cool.

    I like my long boat and the bike trailer is small and takes about 5 minutes to hitch up. The van is just too tall to safely load a boat (at least for me).
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    Ricardo was talking about attaching the boat vertically on the back of the van.

    I thought I posted a link to the trailer, whoops, put it another post above this one.
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    Yes like Robin Hood and his bow and arrow, and if is to long you lean it backwards and use a foldable but rigid A frame (two foldable tubes), to hold it in position so is not affected by the braking..
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    My memory is nowhere near reliable enough to have something that tall above my vehicle. I'd forget it was there and disaster would soon follow.
    I see a few spots on your trailer where ladder racks could possibly be bolted on.
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    What would you recommend to use to attach the racks securely, hardware? I'd like to avoid drilling holes.
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