After much trial and tribulation I finally got to use my new to me Kifaru 4 man tipi and medium stove last night on the way home from the Hells Canyon run. I forgot my stakes at home... that sucked. Found 8 decent substitutes in Spray. Bought 8 more at the campground, but those sucked. Usually it takes 16 stakes to peg out the tipi. It is WELL worth the effort. Please forgive the 8 stake pitch, but even at that it was FANTASTIC! Plenty of room for gear, even with the stove installed... Both paniards on their kick stands make packing and unpacking very convient and as you can see there is plenty of room inside... I set up my Downmat Exped 9 DLX on a footprint from my HD2 and an emergency blanket... It was comfy... it was nice as you could just lift it up to take out a rock or stick if one were bugging you... And here is a shot of it all together... And with the bug screen closed... Having the stove in the tipi is just plain amazing! It rained hard last night and it was COLD. I lit a fire and stoked it for a while then slept like a bug in a rug... toasty and warm. In the morning I lit the fire from my sleeping bag and rolled over to sleep just a little more. It was FANTASTIC! I didn;t want to leave. It was raining and dismal outside but I was the most content I have ever been in a tent in the rain when it was cold. I could have stayed for days. The doors have a feature that allows you to have a screened window in each door. You can close the window without coming back inside to do it... I didn't get pics of the fire going casue the camera was on the bike and it was cold and raining outside... I was too comfortable to leave. The tipi, liner and stove is an expensive package but I am absolutly delighted and will use it every chance I get. The tipi and stove combo weigh in at just over 12# and packs easily on the GS. I love it. This morning was a muddy mess but I didn't have to worry about tracking in mud adn I didn't have to remove my boots. It was fantastic and I didn't want to leave. Everything was soaked when I left. I packed it in a mesh bag I got at REI. It worked great.