Love the ventilation in these pants but these guy's 34's just don't have quite the hip cut this gal needs. No armor with the pants but you get a stamp of action with - i guess i'll call them "scuffs" - material isn't torn but there are these faint black lines (tried to capture them in the photo) on the right knee w/ just like 2 tiny ones on the left. Believe it or not, they're from getting on my knees - wrestling with unhooking my going downhill peg from between a root, rocks, & an exposed oil pipe about 3 inches off the dirt hill i was trying to get up. Other than that, these look pretty pristine. So.... shipped CONUS $100 PP F&F with lots of wrestling with letting go of some orange.