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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Bama67, Sep 15, 2018.
Light beer? I live in the Napa Valley of beers...please. Enjoying a nice Melvin IPA at the moment.
so if you win you want an ipa ok. when i win im wanting a good german lager or if the season is right when we get the answer a real oktoberfest. we can use the light beer to clean stuff
Keeping it classy in da Foco
And the KLR is gone! I thought that roach would never get squashed.
nah i think eakins and i are on the same page about light beers
yeah, with the new efi bikes that came out, the KLR should be good to go.
I'm leaning on two principles:
1. Nothing last forever. Meaning there will be a new KLR at some point.
2. And the more things change, the more they stay the same. So the new one will be just a basic bike and very similar in price. She needs to be at least $2,000-$3,000 cheaper than the new T700.
I would be shocked if she was over $6,999.
BASE MSRP◊ $6,699
+ DESTINATION CHARGE $395.00
Remember, the Ninja 400 and how she is just a great value.
However, if the Verys X 300 and Versys 650 are selling well, maybe they will wait another year. I'm not sure why you do that and let folks buy the T700 by the thousands.
I'll always have a gen 2. Good fuel range, decent headlights, good protection from light rain when commuting, etc. The thing is, there are enough lightly used ones out there to keep us fans going for a long, long time.
I might be alone in this, but I'd rather see Kawasaki cook up something that competes with the Africa Twin. I've come to grips with the fact that I will never be a hard core off road rider. Give me something that handles interstate as well as it does high speed gravel with an honest 250 mile fuel range.
My first motorcycle was an orange kd80. I'd love to give my money to Kawasaki instead of Honda.
I compare the KLR to a pickup , the pickups are getting lighter , better suspended , more powerful and achieving better mileage with cleaner emissions . I enjoyed my KLR's . R.I.P. .
New 2018s are still available in dealer showrooms. Get one while you can!
Appereciate your credible evidence, adam728!
For some years, Internet posts have claimed, with some conviction from their posters, the assertion: KLR650s are woefully deficient regarding emission standards. I've wondered at the sources (never stated) for this conclusion. Your tangible and specific reference contributes a component of reality to the discussion, in my view.
So, if not for current USA environmental emission standards, why was the KLR650 discontinued?
My guess: The answer lies within the analytical minds of the Kawasaki Heavy Industry corporate financial managers (o.k., the "green-eyeshade" boys). Right or wrong in their decision to "off" the KLR650, their primary obligation remains toward the interest of the company stockholders, the owners; the "widows and orphans" with their life savings invested in the company. In the calculus of Kawasaki financial management, the goals set for market share, return on investment, profitability, etc., were not considered achievable by continuing KLR650 production, compared to alternative opportunities for investment and commitment of resources to other products.
In fairness to those harboring the emissions theory, perhaps Kawasaki is wary of anticipated FUTURE emission restrictions, assumed as a challenge to as-built KLR650 design, dooming the model.
DISCLAIMER: Outright opinion only, above; pure conjecture without a shred of evidence.
Keep in mind, the US is far more lenient in emissons standards than many other countries. I'll dig up some facts / sources in the AM. Euro standards are a lot tougher than US, so many models sold here are dirty and miss a big part of the world market. The DR650 for example, is still carbureted, and pretty much sells here, Australia, and a few South American countries. Hasn't been sold in the EU since something like 2002.
So I can see models that pass here, but not other countries getting cut in favor of more emmisions friendly models to allow a larger sales market. Just my theory.
I dunno...the rumor is that the KLR will be back in 2020, 2021 after a short break.
That’s what I’m hearing from people in the know...
They would be ok if they brought her back for 2020.
But if they did, we would only find out like in Feb.
The 2014 New Edition, which was the new seat and improved suspension came out in Feb of 2014. It was a total surprise to me and others on ADVRider.
I think they just sliped it in with the other 2014 models which were the same as the 2008.
So if by December we do not hear anything, there is hope that in Feb or so there will be a new bike or the old one coming back.
Either way, we have the 2020 MIGHTY DR and this summer the T700. early 2021 model.
And the 500cc and below bikes.
We will be fine.
What do you'all think of these bikes if you could not find a used KLR or DR for 2020?
Hopefully there will be a KTM in the mix too.
I love the RE Hima, but I would take a X300. Dealership network.
Lighter than the CB500X, and can still do highway ok.
I would need to do something with the seat, and raise the bars. A skid plate would be good insurance.
Bark Busters of course.
I demo road the R3, which is just 20 more cc or so.
That bike could rip after 8,000rpm.
Re-quoting myself from post #413. Nothing really has changed from then, and in fact, no newer KLR data had been added to the EPA certification list.
Thanks for sharing!
Just wondering, who are these, "people in the know?"
I'd be happy with 50 HP, a curb weight no more than 400lbs. with reliability & long service intervals. 50 HP from a 650 would still be under stressed & shouldn't require a loss of reliability.
I can't believe the Japanese haven't updated the dual sport market with a 450-500cc thumper. I would get one for sure & I'd dearly love to see something along the lines of a CRF-500L similar to the Kozera build in the "Beasts" section.
That's the one I was thinking of
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