KLR650 Only Thread......

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by willys, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. phideaux

    phideaux Long timer Super Supporter

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    Gen 1 with 685. I'm thinking of steeping up my gearing. What's the collective thought.....do I want to go 15T or 16T on the counter?
    Have I read somewhere that the 16T is just too close of a fit?


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  2. scout68

    scout68 Been here awhile

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    Been thinking about the same thing. Since I bought a woods/single track bike I’m now mostly commuting on the KLR. Been wondering if 17 is too big a jump. Bought a 16, probably will just giv e it a try. Tim2wheels had a helpful video about this issue.....

    Although that’s Gen 2 stuff
  3. Pollack

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    15cs or 16cs fits great, no issues of any kind. With the 17cs you will need to make an adjustment. I pulled the stator wires more so on the outer edge of the engine case in between the plastic piece that covers the sprocket. Actually, it fits pretty good there. Regardless, I have 20K on the 17cs.

    Best regards,
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  4. Pollack

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    I topped off the oil with 4 oz of Lucas oil stabilizer and I'm going to hit the tarmc for a 100 miles to see what happens.

    Best regards,
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  5. Pollack

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    The results were a little interesting. The oil consumption was cut in half for the 120 miles I road, and the engine did run a little smoother. Is it snake oil, not really. Is it necessary, not really. Will I continue to use it, probably....

    Best regards,
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  6. Windborne11

    Windborne11 Been here awhile

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    I put a 17T on to stop the vibration at 60 mph. It did that well, as it now revs 3700 rpm at 60 mph. Acceleration is still OK, but if you run into a stiff 30 mph headwind, dropping down to 4th is required, which pretty much puts you back to the same ratio as 5th with the 15T.
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  7. scout68

    scout68 Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the info, that helps for sure.
    Speaking of the KLR’s “OK” acceleration with the 17 in place....I recently made a bad mistake, a relationship-killer really. I rented an r1200gs adventure, again. A former fling had been repented of, but then I did It again. The power and acceleration were intoxicating. And when I made the standard mistake (KLR mistake , that is..) I make of looking to shift at 4500 rpms into a non existent 5th gear, to my utter surprise there WAS a 6th gear.

    Now I need a GSA. Gotta get through Christmas first.
  8. thechief86

    thechief86 jack of all daniels

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    I've got a GS. It's a great bike.


    I'd still keep my KLR if I had to sell one.
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  9. wheresbaoskee

    wheresbaoskee Perpendicular to Everything

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    Not to rock the proverbial boat, but Yamaha just announced pricing and availability on the T7 for the US.

    Kawasaki needs to hurry up and drop the competing bike I fully expect them to make. Stat.

    I am in the market for a second bike in 2020, but that one will be 2nd hand and road/twisties focused - so they've got another 1-2 years on top of that before I am looking for another adv/ds ride. Or I might just get another G1 KLR without all of the wear/tear/issues that mine has, lol. I suppose time will tell, heh.
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  10. thechief86

    thechief86 jack of all daniels

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    I basically use the GS for commuting to work, and hauling the wife, and the occasional long road trip.
    Most camping trips are done on the KLR, and most joyrides end up happening on the KLR as well, as I
    tend to always find a dirt or gravel road, and prefer the KLR with knobbies for those events.
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  11. wheresbaoskee

    wheresbaoskee Perpendicular to Everything

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    I really wish I was more comfortable on dirt/gravel. Every time I take the KLR out beyond the hills between my place and the desert I want to go exploring.

    In theory I'll have my health ins straightened out in 2020 (the single biggest reason I eschew the dirt riding for now), can put on some better tires for the desert terrain around here, and can start enjoying the KLR all proper-like.

    But yeah, bike #2 current front runner is an 08'-'09 FZ6S in that mind-bending deep blue color. That'll take over commuting duties. I still find the KLR mildly terrifying in LA Freeway Traffic.
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  12. Bigger Al

    Bigger Al Still a stupid tire guy Supporter

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    I'm running a 16T on my Gen 1 with 685 kit, and it's a very good balance of highway versus backroads. It's too high for anything other than faster fire roads, when it comes to gravel. YMMV.
  13. thechief86

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    Once you do the 685 kit, is a higher cruising rpm acceptable? I've heard they don't vibrate as bad, and don't burn oil, so does that mean that one can cruise at say, 6k rpm?
    Asking because I'd love to keep my low end grunt, but would also like to cruise just a tad faster...
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  14. HardWorkingDog

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    I dunno, I try to keep mine right around 5k, with brief excursions above that for passing or scaring myself, etc. Touch wood, but still no oil consumption.
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  15. Chaos-in-ID

    Chaos-in-ID Who knows Thats the fun of it

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    I have a GEN 2 with a 685 installed it does vibrate less and now burns no oil. I love the thing. But Im not running all day at 6 grand. Its a tractor. If I need to ride fast and cover lots of miles on pavement the KLR stays at home and I ride one thats much better at it like my DL 1000 it eats miles and dont care how fast, 90 all day fine.
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  16. kf7ja

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    I Installed one when my ‘09 had 1,200 miles. It never seemed like it made much difference with the warmup or operating temps. Due to a melted air box, I had to install a 692 kit. Then went through the brake it in and afterwards kept the engine spreed under 5k rpm. It started using a slight bit of oil so I started trying to figure out why. Turns out my T-bob had a defective thermostat. I believe that led to my oil use. I wish I had checked out the operation of it earlier. I don’t know if it was ever working.
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  17. Dan Diego

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    I just did a 1050-mile ride last week, about 900 miles in Mexico. My new-to-me Gen 1 did great on and off road.

    It has some upgrades that made the ride easier (suspension, seat, bars, etc.) but it’s still a 649cc with the stock tank.

    I gotta say, it handled the miles of bad pavement well...and the dirt and mud, too. Not one issue with anything.

    I’ve ridden many different bikes in Baja but the KLR is one of my faves for an all-around bike.

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    Now, my buddy had a fairly stock Gen 1, as well. It did great, too...but that mud, though...
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  18. Bigger Al

    Bigger Al Still a stupid tire guy Supporter

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    I installed the kit expressly for a trip to Boise, The Tetons, and Yellowstone. The last two didn't happen thanks to weather concerns, but cruising between Northern California and Boise at 75 MPH was a complete no-sweat affair. The bike runs right at 5K RPM at that point with the 16t Counter sprocket, and it did it effortlessly even though it was loaded down with my big ass (250 pounds) and a week's worth of camping gear. I now have just shy of 3K miles on the kit and I've had to add a whopping 8 ounces of oil in total. IMHO pushing a KLR to 6K for extended periods is kind of asking for trouble. Besides, you've got a GS for that kind of thing. :D
    The 685 kit is much, much smoother than the stock setup, and the bike is just much more fun and comfortable to ride now. My gas mileage went up about 15% during day-to-day use, but the bike does get thirsty when running those 5K speeds for hundreds of miles at a time. Normal MPG is 47-50, and high-speed cruise saw it drop down to 38-40, which is still not too shabby. The IMS/Exxon Valdez tank is a big plus on big mileage days.

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    I ended up swapping the tank panniers to the spot just in front of the Pelican cases, which improved the airflow and leg room. The first week of my trip was down US 395 through Yosemite, then into Sequoia to camp with family for a few days. The transit between the parks included a 70 mile stretch through the Central Valley and Fresno, which was hovering right around 100 degrees. I needed all the airflow I could get at that point.
  19. scout68

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    That’s good stuff BA. and a really nice looking bike.

    Over the last 2 years, many of you have helped me more often than you realize with guidance and thoughts on all things KLR. So can I throw a question your ways ???? I gotta be honest, I’m at a real crossroads with my gen 2. I love the bike. Many on this thread have helped me along with all sorts of upgrades and troubleshooting over the last two years. But I’ve come to a season of life where jumping on the highway and blasting 85 mph to see a child (or 3,yes 3 at once) in college 6 hours away is far more important to me than other excursions....don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love taking back roads and camping my way to wherever I’m headed. It’s just that for the next 10 or so years I’m gonna have several kids in college and I’d rather double-time it to their locale and take them to dinner than spend nights alone in a campground...even though I totally dig nights alone in camp grounds. Highway miles are better than no miles on a bike....

    So .....enter the GS/KLR questions. Chief has it figured out, but my beautiful CFO will take away body parts if I buy another bike without selling one. So......do I trade now for the Gallinde-Strasse (older model with a lot more miles....) or do I pre-emptively go 685/16t counter and heated gear on my beloved gen 2 and just live with it for the foreseeable future....I know full well that while the KLR will never be the 85 mph cruiser, but it will be a great bike that is proven, even if not as sexy as the big GS. And I can fix the thing when it has trubs. I’ve gone as far as posting my ‘15 for sale, without a bite.....

    Would welcome your Thoughts and wisdom and experience fellas. Hope this isn’t out of line for the thread......
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  20. Bigger Al

    Bigger Al Still a stupid tire guy Supporter

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    Thanks for the compliment!

    Sell the KLR and use the proceeds to buy a nice used DL1000 Strom. I had one in addition to my Kawasaki until last year when an unlicensed, uninsured drug dealer hit me head-on and totaled it. That bike was the perfect long-distance touring rig. It was plenty powerful and fast, and maintenance was practically nil. They can be had for less than $2500 all day long.
    There will always be another KLR out there in Used Bike Land.
    My 2 cents' worth.
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