KLR650 Only Thread......

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by willys, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. SloSolo2

    SloSolo2 Long timer

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    Thanks for the helicoil size. I'll look into the cdi wrench as well.
  2. 2old2Bbold

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    Wow, never saw a 6mm bolt with that coarse of a thread. Most 6's are 1.0. Must be a special bolt.
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  3. Scooter Addict

    Scooter Addict Been here awhile

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    I have read on other forums that riders say that a “Thermobob” installed when fairly new, will help prevent oil usage. I don’t know if because the water temperature runs higher that the oil will reach operating temperature and help seat the rings better?
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  4. Pollack

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    The thermo-bob is a good investment if you plan to have you bike on a long-term basis. I regret not putting one on when I was less experienced with the klr. My understanding is the a thermo-bob prevents less thermal stress on the cylinder wall by heating and cooling over a long period of time. I will likely put in a 685, thermo-bob, and new seat sometime next year.

    Best regards,
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  5. Aprilia

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    I'll double check here in a bit. I have a klr engine torn down in the shop. My memory isn't what it used to be lol. Again, same size as existing factory bolt.

    Uhg. Don't where I got 1.50 for M6 from. I edit my original post....M6 1.00
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  6. 2old2Bbold

    2old2Bbold was 2bold2getold

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    Yeah, I kind of doubt if they even make a M6 X 1.50 helicoil. :D
  7. Ohio_Danimal

    Ohio_Danimal If I die trying, at least I tried Supporter

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  8. phideaux

    phideaux Long timer Super Supporter

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    Gen 1 with 685. I'm thinking of steeping up my gearing. What's the collective thought.....do I want to go 15T or 16T on the counter?
    Have I read somewhere that the 16T is just too close of a fit?


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  9. scout68

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    Been thinking about the same thing. Since I bought a woods/single track bike I’m now mostly commuting on the KLR. Been wondering if 17 is too big a jump. Bought a 16, probably will just giv e it a try. Tim2wheels had a helpful video about this issue.....

    Although that’s Gen 2 stuff
  10. Pollack

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    15cs or 16cs fits great, no issues of any kind. With the 17cs you will need to make an adjustment. I pulled the stator wires more so on the outer edge of the engine case in between the plastic piece that covers the sprocket. Actually, it fits pretty good there. Regardless, I have 20K on the 17cs.

    Best regards,
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  11. Pollack

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    I topped off the oil with 4 oz of Lucas oil stabilizer and I'm going to hit the tarmc for a 100 miles to see what happens.

    Best regards,
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  12. Pollack

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    The results were a little interesting. The oil consumption was cut in half for the 120 miles I road, and the engine did run a little smoother. Is it snake oil, not really. Is it necessary, not really. Will I continue to use it, probably....

    Best regards,
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  13. Windborne11

    Windborne11 Been here awhile

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    I put a 17T on to stop the vibration at 60 mph. It did that well, as it now revs 3700 rpm at 60 mph. Acceleration is still OK, but if you run into a stiff 30 mph headwind, dropping down to 4th is required, which pretty much puts you back to the same ratio as 5th with the 15T.
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  14. scout68

    scout68 Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the info, that helps for sure.
    Speaking of the KLR’s “OK” acceleration with the 17 in place....I recently made a bad mistake, a relationship-killer really. I rented an r1200gs adventure, again. A former fling had been repented of, but then I did It again. The power and acceleration were intoxicating. And when I made the standard mistake (KLR mistake , that is..) I make of looking to shift at 4500 rpms into a non existent 5th gear, to my utter surprise there WAS a 6th gear.

    Now I need a GSA. Gotta get through Christmas first.
  15. thechief86

    thechief86 jack of all daniels

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    I've got a GS. It's a great bike.


    I'd still keep my KLR if I had to sell one.
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  16. wheresbaoskee

    wheresbaoskee Perpendicular to Everything

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    Not to rock the proverbial boat, but Yamaha just announced pricing and availability on the T7 for the US.

    Kawasaki needs to hurry up and drop the competing bike I fully expect them to make. Stat.

    I am in the market for a second bike in 2020, but that one will be 2nd hand and road/twisties focused - so they've got another 1-2 years on top of that before I am looking for another adv/ds ride. Or I might just get another G1 KLR without all of the wear/tear/issues that mine has, lol. I suppose time will tell, heh.
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  17. thechief86

    thechief86 jack of all daniels

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    I basically use the GS for commuting to work, and hauling the wife, and the occasional long road trip.
    Most camping trips are done on the KLR, and most joyrides end up happening on the KLR as well, as I
    tend to always find a dirt or gravel road, and prefer the KLR with knobbies for those events.
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  18. wheresbaoskee

    wheresbaoskee Perpendicular to Everything

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    I really wish I was more comfortable on dirt/gravel. Every time I take the KLR out beyond the hills between my place and the desert I want to go exploring.

    In theory I'll have my health ins straightened out in 2020 (the single biggest reason I eschew the dirt riding for now), can put on some better tires for the desert terrain around here, and can start enjoying the KLR all proper-like.

    But yeah, bike #2 current front runner is an 08'-'09 FZ6S in that mind-bending deep blue color. That'll take over commuting duties. I still find the KLR mildly terrifying in LA Freeway Traffic.
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  19. Bigger Al

    Bigger Al Still a stupid tire guy Supporter

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    I'm running a 16T on my Gen 1 with 685 kit, and it's a very good balance of highway versus backroads. It's too high for anything other than faster fire roads, when it comes to gravel. YMMV.
  20. thechief86

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    Once you do the 685 kit, is a higher cruising rpm acceptable? I've heard they don't vibrate as bad, and don't burn oil, so does that mean that one can cruise at say, 6k rpm?
    Asking because I'd love to keep my low end grunt, but would also like to cruise just a tad faster...
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