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Ktm 390 adventure

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by ErÑete, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    Has it been determined that a 21" front wheel/tire will fit within the confines of the stock front suspension travel and not impact the lower triple clamp against the front fender at full compression?
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  2. Yaay

    Yaay Adventurer

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    Of course not. It's just his wishlist I guess. No way 21 inch front will fit that bike without heavily modding the suspension.
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  3. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    I know.. but it is fun to play dumb at times.
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  4. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice The Virginian

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    It does not need to be 10" of travel. They can keep the same amount of travel.

    Some folks just like a 21" front to help prevent wash outs when out in the middle of no where.
    The RE Hima has
    Front Suspension 41mm; 7.8-in. travel
    Rear Suspension 7.0-in. travel
    which is plenty
    In conclusion:

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    The big issue will be the ABS.
  5. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice The Virginian

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    No, not my wishlist.

    A prediction that the after market will jump all over this MC.
  6. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice The Virginian

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    Companies making money off of consumers is the game.

    The 390 will sale so well that Team Japan will put the 400 into the Versys and or a modern KLR will be built.
  7. afordableperformance

    afordableperformance Been here awhile

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    Well, as promised I went to my local not so handy dandy KTM dealer to take a peek at the Duke 390 and possibly take it for a spin just for comparison sake. We got to talking about bikes and KTM in general, since they also sell Kawasaki. They didn't have a 390 Duke serviced, so I couldn't go for a ride, but I looked it over pretty good, the front brake line sure is pulled tight when the bars are turned left, I would be concerned about that, if anyone owns one or buys a 390A please take a look at that.

    They couldn't tell many how many 390A's they could order but mentioned most if not all will be presold like the 790R was. So, the big question is, what's the Out The Door price? I 'bout crapped my pants! They want to add $1089 to the MSRP $6199, so $7288!!! WTH!? $450 freight, $500 assy. and $139 documentation fees!? Then you still have TT&L in my state! I thought this was supposed to be a budget minded bike! This is EXACTLY what I have been talking about when it comes to buying new bikes, has anyone put down a deposit at MSRP, or close, if so from which dealer?

    I think those fees are a bit excessive and that turns me off, makes me want to call around in the future and not even stay local when looking for a new bike. I mentioned they are also a Kawasaki dealer and they did not have one single Versys of any size in stock! Hope everyone else has better luck shopping around, I am definitely out with those fees, I would be in at that price if it were an R though!
  8. cyclopathic

    cyclopathic Long timer

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    I guess the question would be if there's enough travel/clearance/suspension and power improvement to justify extra $$$ over Versys X and loss of spoked wheels. Yes switchable ABS and cool TFT dash but traveling on loaded bike for 13k I was only tempted once to turn ABS off. That was on steepish loose downhill on completely worn street tire. Modern ABS units are pretty good.
  9. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice The Virginian

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    I was a supporter of the Versys 650 until the 19" front CBX came out.
    Now, she's dead to me.

    Also, they've updated the Ninja 650 twice in the last 4 years or so, and the Versys 650 is the same bike from 2015. Granted, in 2016 they added a gear indicator.

    but Kawi is still better than the Candy Yams.

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    The 390 will be 50lbs or so lighter and have switchable ABS. Hp is just a little less than the Honda.
    39 vs 45hp or so.

    The 373cc is the better platform than the 471cc.
    A thumper will beat a P.Twin 180 degree crank. Now a 270 degree crank.... no.

    But, I'll take the Honda when traveling across the Dakotas to get to the west.
    Granted, northern NB is actually a good route too. My favorite. Lots of small towns to change things up. It does add more time.
  10. bobfab

    bobfab Long timer Supporter

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    I hate to join in this frivolous wheel size speculation as I have yet to see anyone push a cast wheel too hard when "adventure" riding... But I must interject that those cb500x have crf250l front suspensions on them to accompany that 21" front.

    Edit: not that anyone asked for my opinion, but I am disappointed with the 390 adv due to weight alone, I was hoping it would be a little lighter to offer more of a low maintenance alternative to the 500exc line...
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    The_Precious_Juice The Virginian

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    I'm confident that the aftermarket will somehow....

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    The lowest common denominator is that she is a KTM. There will be demand.
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    camgregus riding gently now

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    I don't think the aftermarket will attempt this due to the cost of re-engineering the whole front end on a low cost model...I think you will see a 490R before that ever happens...and that will probably be year(s). I'm in the camp no R version for the 390 which is fine with me.

    ps...if you dig through the 500X threads Jenny Morgan explains why Rally Raid did not go to 21. 21 is not the holy grail.
  14. Brtp4

    Brtp4 Powdercoat it. Supporter

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    Nice.

    Somewhere, Tony Foale is laughing.

    BP
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    Grreatdog Long timer Supporter

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    Damn, that was almost too obscure for me. :lol3

    Kind of funny to see what all everybody wants and expects out of a $6000 entry level bike.
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  16. Brtp4

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    On the front, the wheel circumference will likely be more than +2", as 21" tires are are usually taller (and skinnier) than 19" street tires. This will raise the front end at least +2.5", perhaps +3" or more. It will rake the front way out, although surely some brick will testify to how well it steers.

    One could just slide the forks up, but that would likely end very, very badly.

    Then, the other consideration is the rear. It will be hard to gain 2.5" to 3" of additional circumference by going to an 18" wheel (+1"). If you were able to, there is a possibility the tire would hit the swingarm in front.

    And then, someone would have a tall entry level bike with 6" - 7" of travel.

    I am really happy they came out with this bike, and I want the thread to stay positive. But I wonder if the 390 is aimed at someone for whom 17/19 is optimum.

    BP
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  17. Unhingedlizard

    Unhingedlizard Long timer

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    ABS won't be a problem. I've ridden 24000km on a 390 Duke, including gravel, wet grass, and a couple of winters and the abs only gets turned off if I want to do stoppies. It's a brilliant and sublime system that let's you ride the lines you want to without worrying about lock ups.

    The only extra I want from the adv abs is the ability to turn it off and on while riding. The Duke is only switchable when stopped, and you have to turn the ignition off and on to get it back on.

    Edit: realise I just contradicted myself there! I want to be able to switch between supermoto (offroad) mode, off and on while riding.
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    Unhingedlizard Long timer

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    7500km of road only riding and a the tiny paper filter is poked. I hope its a drop in cleanable unit or someone like Rottweiler makes a unit soonish
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    just looking at the new 1290 and noticed the hazard light switch. Where is the switch on the 390? Please don't tell me that some knucklehead decided to remove it to save 3 bucks.
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  20. cyclopathic

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    I'll bet RallyRaid is working on kit as we speak. After all this is a better starting point than G310GS