KTM 790 Adv tire and wheel thread.

Discussion in 'Parallel World (790/890)' started by Migolito, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. Dan D.

    Dan D. Long timer

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    I knew this question probably shouldn't have been asked... lol.

    (playing devils advocate here)

    Considering that they are narrower than the stock 790/890R rims, is it fair to assume they would work fine in dirt, and quite possibly better than stock? :)

    Also... can you tell me the amount of "betterness" a tire/rim gets as it gets thinner by each 0.1 inches? Is that "betterness" linear?


    Such that a 1.6 ich rim is uber awesome, and each .1 inches you go up, you become "x" amount suckier?


    asking for a friend.
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    windblown101 Long timer Supporter

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    A 1.6" front nets you a 15% increase in cornering traction on dirt.
    A 2.5" rear nets you a 20% increase in drive in mud.

    Other interesting and fun facts in my upcoming book of all things internet. Availible for online purchase soon.
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  3. hubilado

    hubilado Motoquiero Super Supporter

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    FWIW; I believe those are the wheels that will be (are) on the 2021 1290 SAS/SAR. No more rim strips.
  4. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper motorcycle junkie Supporter

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    if I were buying wheels again, I’d be looking for a 1.85/3.0 width setup. Tell your friend that. It would make mounting them big meats a lot easier, and as I’ve found from lots of pedaling around on all things 2 wheeled, the extra air volume goes a long way towards keeping things stable.
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  5. Dan D.

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    Thank you sir.
  6. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper motorcycle junkie Supporter

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    You'll see in a few weeks how ridiculous a fatty front looks on a 1.6. pics dont exactly do it justice.
  7. Dan D.

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    Lol...

    I wish it was tomorrow. I'm so ready for some fun.
  8. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper motorcycle junkie Supporter

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    indeed
  9. new2adv

    new2adv Converting gas into wheelies since 1974

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    Mitas E-09 front tire with about 4,200 kilometres on it. Already cupped and just about done. Kind of surprised and disappointed.
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    new2adv Converting gas into wheelies since 1974

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    OTOH, the E-09 on the rear looks pretty good.

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  11. offroadjunky

    offroadjunky Been here awhile

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    I do like the E 09 on the rear.
  12. new2adv

    new2adv Converting gas into wheelies since 1974

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    That's what she said!
  13. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    E-09 were on my short list recently after the OEM Karoo 3s were done, alongside Anakee Wild and Tractionator RallZ; the latter getting the nod. One thing that made me a bit wary of the E-09 was the short life of the front, witnessed first-hand on our 390. The second thing is that the price of Mitas here is getting up there as the importer cashes in on their Chris Birch sponsorship. They are no longer a budget option. Neither is a showstopper just a factor. Wearing out the front in tandem with the rear is not necessarily a bad thing, and the front was comparatively cheaper.

    At 3500 km my front RallZ is starting to get out of shape; you can feel it running your hand across the tyre. The give-away was in the road handling as it is starting to pull in to the apex nicely. Loads of tread left but it's likely to be replaced in sync with the rear, too.
  14. new2adv

    new2adv Converting gas into wheelies since 1974

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    Based on my experience with dirt bikes I was expecting the front tire to last way longer than the rear, but that didn't happen obviously. Is that common on these larger bikes?
  15. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    Dunno about common, but I would agree it happens more often with modern tyres. On my VFR750 running sporty-sportstouring rubber I’m wearing out the fronts first. Historically you’d run a sports front with sportstouring rear, but some years ago the tyre manufacturers twigged to this and have been making matched sets with softer fronts. Too soft if I’m wearing them out first. Or maybe I should be chasing more exit throttle rather than apex speed??

    A contra-point is the Anakee Wild on my 1190; the rears lasted 6,000 km but the front 16,000 km.
  16. kzeb

    kzeb Been here quite some time

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    Is that the Dakar version of the E-09 ?
    I will run the E-09 Dakar front and rear and have great expectations coming from the OEM crap tires last on season...
    I took the cheap way on the wheels and only got a new HAAN front wheel (2.15 tubeless) due to the way I mostly ride theese days and took a low key route on the bling..
    only black nipples and the Excel rim will be the visual difference from the OEM.
    Had the front brake trouble on the OEM and no response from KTM.. what a big surprise...:dirtdog

    Really looking forward to test the tires now.

    Edit: Forgott to mention that the wrestling match with the front tire was the worst I have ever had with a tire it took almost an hour of sweat and cursing... Damn..

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  17. Solex

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    "I will run the E-09 Dakar front and rear and have great expectations coming from the OEM crap tires last on season..."

    A few years ago I tried the e-09 Dakar in Morocco.
    I was very satisfied with the rear tire (sand, rock, tarmac)
    The front tire lacks some guidance in loose ground. But on tarmac It was perfect.
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  18. new2adv

    new2adv Converting gas into wheelies since 1974

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    Yes I think so... I ordered the Dakar version, but I just checked the tire now and there’s nothing on the side wall that says it’s the Dakar version. It just says “E-09 Enduro Front”. But the dealer (MX1 Canada) has been selling Mitas tires for a long time so I trust that they sent me the right one.
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  19. hubilado

    hubilado Motoquiero Super Supporter

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    Yellow strip?
  20. new2adv

    new2adv Converting gas into wheelies since 1974

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    Sorry, don't remember. If there was a stripe on it, it's long gone now.