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Discussion in 'Parallel World (790/890)' started by MX Engineer, Nov 10, 2017.
I haven't seen this video poisted in this forum yet. Enjoy!
Same one, different coat of paint, posted on Tuesday.
Oh baby baby, daddy likey
Have you seen the new BMW video where they are jumping the GS850?
Yeah, me neither.
I do like how it appears the bike handles the rough and jumps. Encouraging that they actually show the bike landing off the jumps rather than cutting the shot short as some other (Honda AT, Yamaha T700) promo vids have. The exhaust note is pretty sweet too. I noticed though in the vid what sounded like the ignition breaking down or bike on the rev limiter at what seemed like a fairly low rpm. Similar to what it sounded like at the intro when they were revving the bike on the stage. Not sure what that's about?
Ah well, 2019 isn't all that far off. Will be fun to throw a leg over all the new bikes and see what's what.
The new 'ride by wire' systems have a few new systems for the throttle, which is what I think you are hearing. For neutral/clutch-in, there is a lower rev limit, probably what you heard in the EICMA video. For off-road mode, they may have a lower rev limit, probably what you heard in the riding video. They may just have a low rev limit to keep it from just getting blown by that rider. There is also a traction control, which you probably can't hear.
The engine sputtering when accelerating hard and over bumps is traction control. All decent bikes have it now, even newer MX bikes where they don't advertise it, they still have a minimally intrusive traction control that is always on. It cuts power either by retarding the ignition or cutting off fuel, which causes the engine to sound weird, not clean.
Mostly use my 701 to ride back and forth to work. Shit.
You won't hear the traction control kick in for the new ride-by-wire. Because, the ECU controls the throttle plate. All it does is give less throttle, same as you would.
The non-ride-by-wire has to use ignition and fuel to cut power. That makes a weird sound and popping.
Could be they are still working on tuning the 790 engine.
The throttle-by-wire is not as fast as the ignition retardation and/or the fuel cut. No mechanical actuator can modulate the trottle flap position at 2,000 - 10,000 Hz precisely.
Rally fairing would look a lot better on that bike and offer a little more weather protection. Also, wonder about the headlight, a rally style headlight might work better.
Will be hard to wait!
parallel twin layout? hmm, for some reason I cant wrap my head around that
Wonder how much it will change when the production version arrives
The video shows impressive capability of the 790. Is the second bike the KTM 450 Dakar Rally bike?
Anyway, with my beloved 950 ADV-S in a new home I am shopping and this 790 has climbed to the top of the list..... as long as it isn't $12-$13k. But I have little hope it will be a bargain. After all, KTM is the company that carried the dirt bike market from $6k to $10k.....and they did it with some brilliant marketing.....Ready to Race.
And with Yamaha delaying the release of their WR700..... both bikes will probably hit the market about the same time. It will be darn interesting to see how they are head to head. I am betting the the Yammy will hit the market at about $9-10k.....so KTM best not price themselves out of the game.
A 2018 Yamaha YZ 450F MX bike lists for 9.2K. Unless the Yamaha 700 has the fit and finish of a KLR, I don't see it under 10K. I look at it the other way and say Yamaha best not cheapen the bike to be out the game.
... like Honda did with the Africa Twin. Now they are upgrading everything.
Let’s be honest here.......whatever KTM prices it at, it will sell! Theres way to much orange blood out there, even if you think it’s $2-$5k over your expectations.
A dealer told me to expect the price to be $12,900 and to expect it by next sept. He also said the Yamaha is well over a year away.