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KTM 790 Adventure

Discussion in 'Parallel World (790/890)' started by 2whlin, Oct 8, 2017.

  1. Pete S

    Pete S Been here awhile Supporter

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    What are people's thoughts on GPS/phone mounts for the location above the TFT display, marked as "Remove for GPS Mount". I've been to this page, which shows various options: https://790adventure.net/electrics-electronics/gps-mount/

    I'm currently using a Garmin Montana with my other bikes, but could easily switch to my iPhone or a secondary phone, specifically bought for GPS use. I'm not looking to get into a debate about using Garmin devices vs. phones. The Montana is a rugged, water-resistant design, although I probably won't be replacing the Garmin down the road, unless Garmin really improves what their devices + software can deliver.

    I'm currently thinking about the KTM mount shown first in the above link, or the Vanasche mount. I'm a bit concerned with whether the combination of the mount, the Garmin cradle and the rather thick Garmin Montana, will partially obscure my view of the TFT display below it. I'm only about 5'9", so far less likely a problem than it would be for someone who is say 6'4", if the GPS/phone extends out farther than the TFT display.
  2. BruceWayne

    BruceWayne Been here awhile

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    I'm running the KTM Power Parts GPS mount on mine. Haven't seen a Vanasche in person, so can't really compare. I'm happy with the KTM, I know some people have had issues with vibes on theirs but mine's rock solid.

    With my Montana 680 in the cradle, TFT is partially obscured for me at 6' but not in a manner that really causes a problem. If I stand dead straight (which I don't really do when riding) it blocks the TFT to the bottom of the gear indicator. In a normal riding position, with knees a bit bent, I don't have any info cut off from view.
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  3. Allucaneat

    Allucaneat When do we stop to eat? Supporter

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    Can you run the windscreen in the low position with the Montana mounted?
  4. BruceWayne

    BruceWayne Been here awhile

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    Yes, I always have my screen in the low position.
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  5. CaseyB

    CaseyB Adventually Supporter

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    Nothing is obscured with the vanasche with the rugged mount and Montana attached.


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    Sorry for the low quality pics. I did screen grabs off my phone from some video.

    but it at least gives you an idea of how the Montana is situated. I'm sitting in both pics and I'm around 5'11".

    Only negative I would say would be the angle while standing. You can see it but I guess you just can't have the best of both worlds.

    Even though its pricey for a gps mount, I like it and would get it again.
  6. Pete S

    Pete S Been here awhile Supporter

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    That's exactly what I wanted to see. Thank you for taking the time to share the photos. I'll be picking my 790 up in a week or two, they've been waiting for either the cruise control switch or the heated grips to come in.
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  7. krussell

    krussell Gravel Warrior Supporter

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    I compared the 2019 -> 2020 Adventure R (US model) parts lists at https://sparepartsfinder.ktm.com. I list the changes I found below. 2019 is listed first. These are just part number changes, that could be a lot of different things, ymmv. I've compared model years of other bikes I've owned or been interested in previously, these seem pretty typical of what I've found on Husky 690, 701, and the KTM 1090, 1290.

    Frame -> Frame

    #22
    63503022150 Bushing 10,4x20x25
    08000010025U0 Bushing 10,4x20x25

    #25
    0024060136 HH collar screw M6x13 TX30
    0024060136S HH Collar screw M6x13 TX30 SL

    #26
    0035100209 AH-COLLAR SCREW M10X20 ISA45
    0035100209S SHCS M10x20 TX45 MK

    #36 -> #46
    0025060166 HH collar screw M6x16 TX30
    0025060166S HH collar screw M6x16 TX30 SL

    #62
    0035100709S AH-COLLAR SCREW M10X70 ISA45
    0035100656S ISA screw, M10x65 ISA45


    Frame -> Exhaust System

    #2
    6350501100033 Heat protection, black, cmpl.
    63505111000C1 Heat protection black cmpl.


    Frame -> Lighting System

    #2
    69014017000 SPECIAL SCREW M6X18 ISA30 08
    69014017000S special screw M6x22-8.8 ISA30


    Frame -> Separate Enclosure

    #0
    90112040000 MIRROR L/S
    58412040100 mirror, left/right

    #0
    90112041000 MIRROR R/S
    28512040000 mirror, right


    Engine -> Engine Case

    #1
    6353000014424 Engine case cmpl.
    6353000024424 Engine case cpl.

    #12
    0025060306 HH collar screw M6x30 TX30
    00002506030U0 Hex collar scr., M6x30, ISA 30

    #13
    0025060606 HH collar screw M6x60 TX30
    00002506060U0 Hex collar scr., M6x60, ISA 30

    There are other HW related changes on this page I could not correlate


    Engine -> Clutch Cover

    #1
    6353000104441 Clutch cover complete
    6353000134441 Clutch cover cpl.

    #2
    63530025100 clutch cover gasket
    63530025300 Form ring, clutch cover

    #6
    0025060306 HH collar screw M6x30 TX30
    0025060356 HH collar screw M6x35 TX30


    Engine -> Balancer Shifter

    #6
    63530059050 pivot -> now two parts...

    63530059150 Bearing bolt
    0984050123S CYLIND. SCR. DIN6912 M5X12 8.8


    Engine -> Shifting Mechanism

    #4
    0019050106S hex lobe countersunc screw M5x
    0019050121S INT. TORX FLAT HEAD M5X12 T25

    #5
    63534011000 Locking plate
    63534011100 Bearing retaining bracket

    #33
    63534001000 shift fork 1.-4. gear
    63534001100 Shift fork


    Engine -> Cylinder Head

    #8
    0025060406 HH collar screw M6x40 TX30
    0025060405 HH collar screw M6x40 ISA30

    #15
    63530036200 Cylinder head gasket
    63530036400 Cylinder head gasket

    #18
    63535019000 water connection
    63535019100 Water connection

    #19
    0025050206 HH collar screw M5x20 TX30
    0025050166S HH Collar Screw M5x16 ISA30 SS

    #37 is only on 2020 ->
    61738016000 Oil screen


    Engine -> Lubricating System

    #9
    0019050106S hex lobe countersunc screw M5x
    0019050121S INT. TORX FLAT HEAD M5X12 T25
  8. 1coolbanana

    1coolbanana Long timer

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    Engine cases!
    We really are the Beta testers :lol3
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  9. ibgary

    ibgary Long timer

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    I used the Innova power hub 2. Its smaller than the original power hub. Measures about 2"x1.5"x1/4". It's a weatherproof solid state relay. The pic is of it on mi espouses CB500X. It powers the front and read Skeen lights, chain oiler, heated hand grips and phone charger. The phone holder/charger is switched and has an led so you can see if it is on or off. On my 790 I ran it to the hot line in the front. That lets me use it for charging while I'm setting up camp and the led reminds me to turn it off after dark. 20200103_062046.jpg 20200103_061813.jpg
    Rydonair is the phone charger. 20$.
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  10. lowerlattitudes

    lowerlattitudes LowerLattitudes

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    nice tidy little solution
  11. GodFatherOfChill

    GodFatherOfChill Adventurer

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    My wife had a medium-level crash, and broke her steering stop on the lower triple clamp.

    I’m a little surprised that the steering stop broke, but at least the steering stops on the 790 ADV are NOT on the frame.... it’s my understanding that if the steering stops were on the frame, and they broke off, the bike would be a total loss from an insurance company‘s perspective. Yikes!

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  12. TrailTrauma

    TrailTrauma Nemophilist

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    Good to share; thanks.

    What happened overall, if I may ask? I'm curious to know how much force it took to sheer that off.

    Here's hoping your wife was uninjured!
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  13. No-Fret

    No-Fret Tanker

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    WTH?
  14. GodFatherOfChill

    GodFatherOfChill Adventurer

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    We were suddenly surprised by some serious deep mud that was also super slick in the shallower spots. It came out of nowhere.

    She fishtailed for a bit and then whiskey throttled off the trail onto a dry wash bed that was about 2ft lower than the trail. The wash bed had a dirt “wall” on the far side and caused the bike to come to a sudden stop. I think that is what broke the steering stop. We rode for over an hour back home and the bike was riding completely normal.

    She is fine other than a swollen lip from her helmet impacting her mouth as she went OTB and her helmet hitting and breaking the windscreen. Thanks for your concern!
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  15. TrailTrauma

    TrailTrauma Nemophilist

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    Jeez man, thats some bad luck! I'm happy to hear she is ok (other than the swollen lip). Definitely a trooper by the sound of it!
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  16. braaap!

    braaap! Long timer Supporter

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    Fawk!
    Those stops on the triple are pretty beefy... Must of been quite a whack :muutt
    Have you checked if the forks are twisted in the triples?.. Glad GodMotherOfChill escaped reasonably unscathed.
  17. GodFatherOfChill

    GodFatherOfChill Adventurer

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    That’s a good point about the forks. I’ll be taking the bike to the local dealer to have the new lower triple installed, and I’ll definitely have them give the bike a look over.
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  18. GodFatherOfChill

    GodFatherOfChill Adventurer

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    Yes. She is most definitely a trooper! She is a 5’1” tall & 105lb of pure adrenaline junkie...that rides a 790R.

    She had to exert much physical effort after the crash as it took almost 2 hours to extract my motorcycle from the mud pit I managed to get it stuck in. She did it all with a bloody face and mouth. I was quite impressed myself! Here’s a pic of my partner in crime with her 790 that she nicknamed “Cream-cycle”.

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  19. ibgary

    ibgary Long timer

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    So much for saying it's to tall.
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  20. FlyLow

    FlyLow Just Ride Supporter

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    It's too tall - for me.