L.A.-Barstow to Vegas LAB2V 2015 Fri Nov 27 and Sat 28 2015

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  1. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    LAB2V 2015

    Thanksgiving weekend Friday November 27

    Saturday November 28


    Palmdale Supercycles - Barstow Ramada Inn - Orleans Hotel Las Vegas



    AMA D37 THREAD HERE

    ONLINE REGISTRATION
    please do not quote this first post. let's keep this thread uncluttered.
    also there will be updates and changes on this post over the next few months.
    :deal

    YOU DO NEED AMA MEMBERSHIP FOR THIS RIDE!
    AS A MOTORCYCLIST, YOU SHOULD SUPPORT ALL THE EFFORTS THE AMA DOES FOR MOTORCYCLIST RIGHTS AND KEEPING OUR LAND OPEN AND OUR RIGHTS TO RIDE.
    americanmotorcyclist.com/membership/join
    $49 membership



    PLEASE READ ALL RULES.

    PLATED STREET LEGAL BIKE.

    SPARK ARRESTOR AND QUIET EXHAUST A MUST ( 96db ).

    FUEL RANGE IS 90-100 MILES.

    HAVE A ROLLCHART HOLDER. EVEN IF YOU HAVE GPS, YOU NEED A ROLLCHART

    the LAB2V is the days after Thanksgiving, on Friday November 27 and Saturday November 28


    ENTRY IS $195 both days





    http://www.district37ama.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5

    SECURE MOTORCYCLE PARKING IN BOTH BARSTOW AND LAS VEGAS

    Barstow is secure at the Ramada Inn.
    you can park there even if you're not staying at the Ramada.
    there will be local Boy Scouts (and their parents) that will watch all night long for a small donation of 10 bucks.

    Las Vegas has a fenced off area where you will park.

    Your Gear will be transported from Palmdale-> Barstow and Barstow-> Las Vegas for FREE with trailer. just pick up your bag after each days ride

    PLEASE GO OVER TO D37 SITE AND READ ALL THE RULES, AND POINTERS ON WHAT TO BRING ie; clothing/gear/tools/food/tires/etc etc.


    http://www.district37ama.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5



    PALMDALE

    Holiday Inn
    http://www.hipalmdale.com
    661-947-8055

    BARSTOW

    RAMADA INN SOLD OUT
    http://www.ramada.com/hotels/california/barstow/ramada-barstow/rooms-rates
    760-256-5673

    Quality Inn. SOLD OUT
    https://www.choicehotels.com/california/barstow/quality-inn-hotels/ca183
    760-256-6891

    CALIFORNIA INN 30+ rooms available as of 10/31/15
    http://www.innbarstow.com/barstow-california-hotel/
    760-256-0661

    MOTEL 6
    https://www.motel6.com/content/g6/motel6/motel6-com/en/motels.ca.barstow.1355.html
    760-256-1752
    or check Yelp for other options, but the Ramada and Holiday are the main hotels we use.
    http://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=hotels&find_loc=Barstow,+CA


    LAS VEGAS

    Orleans
    http://www.orleanscasino.com/whats-...leans&ef_id=VP5FqwAAAbshsVy8:20150702070656:s
    702-365-7111
    or
    800-ORLEANS


    Do I have to be an AMA Member?

    YES
    AMA membership is required.
    Beta National Dual Sport Bike Series bike drawings - Founded in 1924, the AMA has an unparalleled history of pursuing, protecting and promoting the interests of the world's largest and most dedicated group of motorcycle enthusiasts.
    JOIN HERE

    Will my bike need to pass an inspection?

    YES
    - Street licenced, legal motorcycles only!
    - U.S. Forest Service approved spark arrestor.
    - Be able to pass an exhaust sound decibal test. 96dB Max.
    - You must have a roll chart holder installed.
    Roll chart holders will be available for purchase at the event.

    How many miles is it?

    It will be about 225-250 miles on Friday and 225-250 on Saturday
    - Depending on your chosen route.
    - choose from: Easy as well as Hard Way off shoots.

    What kind of GPS do I need?

    Garmin.
    - You won't "need" a GPS at all!
    - But if you want to use one, the tracks will be available for most any Garmin units.
    - Be sure to bring your connection cable too!

    Do I really need a roll chart holder if I have GPS?

    YES
    - Roll Chart navigation is the tried and true navigation method
    - plus.. the batteries will never run out!

    What will the weather be like?

    It has been COLD, HOT, WINDY, RAINY, SUNNY & SNOWY!
    - Prepare for these conditions and you should be fine.
    - NOTE ~ twilight 6:06AM, Sunrise 6:34AM - Sunset 4:37PM, twilight 5:05PM

    What if I don’t have a riding partner?

    Please look on District 37 message board to find a riding partner before the ride
    - Because riding alone is not advised, we encourage you to find a partner or group on our board.
    - No one rides alone! The District 37 folks make sure of that!

    Are there group rates available on hotels?

    Yes group rates are available for the LA-Barstow-Vegas ride
    - Palmdale: Holiday Inn, 661-947-8055, mention code: AMA
    - Barstow: Ramada (Ride HQ), 760-256-5673, mention code: AMA
    - Barstow: or Quality Inn, 760-256-6891, mention code: AMA
    (the Quality Inn is directly across the street from the Ramada)
    - Las Vegas: The Orleans, 800-675-3267, mention code: A5AMC11
    Orleans cut off date to book with the group rates is Oct 27. DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE. IT WILL SELL OUT.
    got questions?

    Please visit the D37 Message Board for LOTS more info - HERE
    - The message board can be helpful to find transportation at various points needed before and after the ride.



    PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THIS POST. LET'S NOT CLUTTER THE THREAD.

    IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, POST UP.




    just an FYI to everyone...

    LAB2V is an open route. not on a closed course. there is 2 way traffic on all routes that you will be riding so ride with caution.
    this is Thanksgiving weekend and there are a lot of OHVers out in the desert this weekend and 4X4 folks, so keep your eyes peeled.
    there is also unmarked paved road crossings as well as unmarked dirt road crossing so please check before you cross.
    and this is the desert so there will be washouts that could maybe possibly break a BMW swingarm.:lol3


    this is your friendly reminder to ride safe.:muutt

    and have a fucking blast because this is the best dual sport ride in the world! :ricky
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  2. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    this is the rider instructions from a few years ago but it great info to look over.

    RIDER INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS

    The AMA District 37 Dual Sport Committee welcomes you to our 29th Annual LA-B-to-V Tour and 18th Annual Toys for Tots run. We begin at Palmdale Supercycles in Palmdale, following marked existing trails on Bureau of Land Manage- ment (BLM) land, through U.S. National Forests, and finish in Las Vegas at The Orleans Hotel and Casino, a mile west of I-15 on Tropicana Blvd. Our reception and award presentation with great giveaways on Saturday night will be held upstairs in the Mardi Gras Ballroom at The Orleans.

    ALL RULES MUST BE ADHERED TO! Failure to do so WILL JEOPARDIZE our ability to receive permits for future dual sport rides. If you need additional information, please call Dave or Heather Tonkiss at 818-241-6540 (anytime-leave a message), Paul Flanders at 626-446-7386, or Kieth Huff at 562-244-0244.

    PREPARE YOURSELF AND YOUR BIKE! Eat breakfast and get gas BEFORE you reach signups. Sweep crew leaves Friday at 8:30 a.m! Expect rain, snow, wind, or fog, although sunshine is usually the norm. Layers are helpful so you can shed clothes if it gets warm. BE SURE TO BRING ALONG A BACKPACK WITH WATER, TOOL KIT, AND TIRE RE- PAIR KIT! Take time to go over your bike thoroughly to prevent on-course repairs. Tighten all bolts, check chains, ca- bles, brakes, air/fuel filters, batteries, oil, drain plugs, and tires.

    TIRES: Fresh, aggressive, off road/knobby tires are VERY important! If you need a tire after the first day, Barstow Motor- cycle Center will be open. Buy and install new tires and, especially, ultra heavy duty tubes (like Bridgestone) before the ride. Carry a regular spare tube and repair kit (including tire irons) with you on the ride!

    DUST: Be prepared for dust. A cover for your mouth and nose is a smart idea. The ride is over 300 miles of desert every year. (Pray for rain before the event, and the awesome traction we might have if it happens.)

    DUAL SPORT: This means this is not a race or competitive event! Our course was ridden by both novice to veteran riders within daylight hours. Your skill and personal riding style may vary from these riders. There are leap options or bail outs for both days’ rides. USE THEM! We don’t want to be out looking for you because you are lost in the dark. Please remember that this is not a race, but a scenic dual sport ride for you to enjoy our mountain and desert areas. TIME MAN- AGEMENT IS CRITICAL!

    TECH INSPECTIONS/SOUND REQUIREMENTS: As part of our permits, your motorcycle will be checked for an opera- tional spark arrestor at the start of each day. Before you are allowed to sign up for the event, your motorcycle will also be visually inspected for street legality and checked for license plate, muffler, mirror, turn signals, headlight, tail/brake light, and roll chart holder. If you don’t pass, you don’t ride! If you are coming from out-of-state and have all the necessary equipment to be street legal for your state, this will suffice. Aftermarket exhaust systems not exceeding 96 dbA will be allowed. NO STOCK PIPES WITHOUT BAFFLES; THEY ARE TOO LOUD!

    ROLL CHART and GPS USE: You will be provided with a roll-chart with turn mileage and important course information. You must have an enduro-style roll chart holder. GPS is only an aid for navigation. Most of the important information concerning the route is on the roll chart and not annotated onto GPS. Your GPS is not accurate enough to warn of criti- cal turns. Use your GPS as the good tool it is–but install and use your roll chart. If you are using GPS, bring your own cable to signups for a GPS download. A limited number of roll chart holders will be for sale at the start of each day for $30. You will also receive a map and updated information pertaining to the course and permit stipulations for each day.

    RESETS: There are many reset sections per day. Do NOT stop for a lengthy period. Stopped time burns daylight! Reset and get going, or try to reset on the fly. Save the bench racing for when you finish. If you want to take photos, have your camera in a handy location.

    FUEL: The farthest gas Day One is 111 miles on the hard/easy way from Ridgecrest to Barstow and Day Two 92 miles on the hard/easy way from Barstow to Ludlow. A four-stroke bike with a large capacity fuel tank should have no problem with the distances. If you can’t make those distances, you may want to carry gas on you. At the lunch stop on DAY TWO in Sandy Valley, each rider will receive 1.5 gallons of gas ONLY. This is just enough for you to make it to Las Vegas. Get gas at each opportunity, especially in Baker!

    MEDICAL EMERGENCIES: All regular checkpoints will have minor first aid kits available to the riders. If you are injured or riding with another rider that becomes injured, please have someone notify the closest available checkpoint of the po- sition on the course and the nature of the injury. Keep the emergency room address/phone list, along with other impor- tant addresses and phone numbers provided in this packet on you. When you seek medical help, notify our workers

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    with the name and rider number so we can notify your pit crew. The best way to get emergency medical help is to call 911.

    SWEEP CREW / DESIGNATED COURSE: The sweep crews follow the designated course only. They leave the start area half an hour after signups have closed. Do not deviate from the course. Use bailouts when necessary, but notify the nearest checkpoint of your ride plan. The sweep trucks have been instructed to pick up ALL riders and broken motorcy- cles on the course to be delivered to a drop-off point to connect with your crew. Your cooperation is appreciated.

    LUGGAGE and GEAR: We will transport your small gear bag from the start to the finish of each day. Please tag or mark all pieces. We are not responsible for lost, stolen, or damaged luggage. Drop off/pick up of luggage is during sign-in times each day at the signups area. You’ll find the luggage trailer parked right outside signups.

    PHOTO OPPORTUNITY: There will be a course photographer in a strategic place each day. A sticker with your LA-B-to- V number will be given to you in your rider packet. It is to be placed on your front fender or number plate. The photogra- pher will identify your photo by that number. Your photos will be available for purchase at the awards reception Saturday night. Photos will also be available after the event online at photosbygrumpy.com.

    GOODIES: Your entry includes a commemorative t-shirt and ride pin. Some additional t-shirts and sweatshirts will be available at the awards reception in Las Vegas. Numerous raffle items have been donated, plus each rider (who is wear- ing his rider wristband) will receive a sponsor-provided bag of goodies at the reception.

    AWARDS RECEPTION: LAS VEGAS-SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 24. Riders, their families, and support crew are wel- come to attend the awards reception in the Mardi Gras Ballroom above The Orleans casino. Rider admission is included with entry. Doors open at 7 p.m. with no host bar, service of the appetizer-buffet begins at 7:30 p.m., and the awards presentation begins at 8 p.m. Riders must wear their wristbands for admission and to win prizes. Riders must be present to win all prizes.

    SPECIAL AWARDS: Tradition dictates that we recognize those who take the effort and dare to be different. If you feel that you or one of your riding buddies qualifies for one of these awards, please discuss this with our District 37 Officers.

    OVERALL DAY ONE AND DAY TWO COMBINED CATEGORIES:

    Terry Pratt Memorial Oldest Motorcycle award
    Oldest Participant (verified by driver license)
    Hard Luck Award (verified by witnesses, not rumor)
    Smallest engine (rider finishing both days has priority on this award)
    Distance Traveled to Event Award (U.S. entries only, verified by entry and driver license) International Entry Award (for farthest outside of the U.S.)

    Most Unusual Motorcycle (as determined by our opinionated staff) Ben Gay Award (Ouch!)

    TOYS FOR TOTS BENEFIT: Remember, this is a Toys for Tots benefit ride and you are asked to bring an unwrapped toy with a $10 value or be prepared to make a charitable $10 cash contribution.

    WE NEED HELP AT THE EVENT: If your pit crew/wife/family/friends can assist us at the start or finish of each day, we would really appreciate it. To help with signups, check ins, checkpoints, or the awards reception, please call Paul Flan- ders at 626-446-7386 or Kieth Huff at 562-244-0244. If you have questions, find a worker wearing an orange vest.

    ALL LAWS APPLY: All Federal, State, County, Local, BLM, (and Murphy's) laws apply to the operation of this event. This event IS NOT exempt from any law pertaining to the safe operation of a street-licensed motor vehicle.

    FINISH DAY ONE: BARSTOW-FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 23. Our official headquarters will be the Ramada Inn, 1520 E. Main St., Barstow, in a meeting room on the west side of the hotel. Look for the Check Point sign. We will open Day One Finish around 2:30 p.m. and will continue in the same location until 7 p.m. or when final sweep comes in. You will receive Day Two riders’ instructions and roll chart at the same time. If you bail out early you must check in so we can ac- count for you. There is adequate RV parking in the dirt lot adjacent to the Ramada Inn. Camping here is for self- contained RVs only. Bring locks for all evenings to secure your bike! (See below.)

    MECHANIC AVAILABLE IN BARSTOW AT THE RAMADA: Kawasaki of Simi Valley and Jake Argubright are pleased to bring the OFF-ROAD SUPPORT truck to the Ramada Inn. Available from 2-9 p.m. on Friday, the truck will be staffed by two mechanics and have spare parts available, including tires, tubes, etc. Look for them parked on the dirt lot next to the Ramada Inn.

    BIKE SECURITY IN BARSTOW: Security for your bike will be provided by Cub Scout Troop #464 for a $10 donation. The secure, well-lit paddock on the dirt lot adjacent to the Ramada Inn will be staffed by troop members and their fathers (most of whom are police officers) from 2 p.m. Friday until 8 a.m. Saturday morning. Free, hot coffee for riders!

    DAY TWO ONLY: PRE- AND POST-ENTRANTS. Check in at the Ramada Inn beginning at 2:30 p.m. Friday, 11/23, until 7 p.m. and again from 6-7 a.m. on Saturday, 11/24, to receive your second day’s roll chart and GPS download. You will need to have your bike inspected before you sign-up if you are arriving for Day Two only. Ask at the LA-B-to-V sign- up desk for Tech Inspection.

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    START DAY TWO IN BARSTOW: SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 6 A.M., EVERY ENTRANT WILL PASS THROUGH OUR CHECK-OUT CHUTE STARTING BEFORE DAYBREAK ON SATURDAY MORNING. You will be checked off our official rider list to account for our riders on the course. This is part of our permit stipulations from the BLM so we must strictly adhere to it! BLM personnel will ride the event on both days as they have in the past. Give them your best regards and share your enthusiasm for the dual sport rides we have on our public land.

    Day Two will be nearly all desert and a fabulous mountain finish. The course is 274-290 miles, depending on route op- tions. There are fun and fast sections. Keep a good pace. Get a quick lunch at Sandy Valley School, where a free lunch and 1.5 gallons of gas are part of your entry fee. The best part of the ride is after lunch through two mountain passes be- tween Sandy Valley and Las Vegas, so don’t delay here. FILL YOUR BIKE AT BAKER AND EACH GAS STOP!

    FINISH DAY TWO LAS VEGAS: SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 24. The finish will be at The Orleans Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas about one mile west of I-15 on Tropicana Blvd. Check-in will be from 3-6 p.m. If you arrive after 6 p.m., check in at the awards reception at 7 p.m. Check in even if you are staying at another hotel! There is no secured parking so bring a lock and chain for your bike for hotel parking. Doors open for the awards reception at 7 p.m.

    IMPORTANT COURSE INFORMATIONALL routes on the course are expected to have two-way traffic situations. Please keep to your RIGHT on all roads, espe- cially in the mountains. You may encounter hikers, horseback riders, mountain bikers, and others within our course area.

    Although we have permits for this event, this does not give us exclusive use of the areas. Course marking will be with PINK AND BLUE ribbon at a turn with a confirming ribbon after the turn. RESETS will be marked with RED/SILVER my- lar and BLUE ribbon. Ribbon will only be used in dirt sections unless otherwise specified on the roll chart. IMPORTANT: HARD WAYS are exactly that and we mean it, no BS! Our hard ways may strip the cylinders off a BMW twin and we won’t air-lift it out! A LONG WAY means exactly that for everyone. It’s longer. Hard ways total equal about 518 miles.

    The 2012 LA-B-to-V course will traverse the Toiyabe National Forests and four BLM Resource Areas. On both days there are checkpoints and sections where speeds limits of 30 mph to “protect the desert tortoise” are necessary. At the lunch/ gas stop in Sandy Valley you will be required to hose off your bike in order to not transfer any weeds and seeds from the desert area to the upcoming forest/mountain area ahead. A wash area and hoses will be provided. This course will in- clude mostly two-track jeep roads and several short sections of pavement. The terrain will vary with both easy- and hard- way options available. Some “bail-outs” and “leaps” will be included for you to take if you experience fatigue or are run- ning late.

    THERE ARE 30 MPH TORTOISE ZONES. YOU MUST OBEY THE SPEED LIMITS. THE BLM OFFICE WILL BE WATCHING FOR RIDERS EXCEEDING THE SPEED LIMIT IN THESE ZONES.

    START DAY ONE 6:30-8 a.m. START DAY TWO 6-7 a.m.

    DAY ONE SIGN-IN PROCEDURES: FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 2012 PALMDALE SUPERCYCLES, 38910 CARRIAGE WAY, PALMDALE, CA 661-273-1533

    STEP 1. PARKING: Ride your motorcycle to the Palmdale Supercycles parking lot for tech inspection for the start on Fri- day. Parking until Sunday for your vehicle is available in the lot behind the store. Do not stop/park your truck or trailer in the Palmdale Supercycles driveway as it causes gridlock. Drive immediately through to the back parking lot. Only park there if you will be leaving your vehicle for the duration of the event.

    STEP 2. TECH INSPECTION: Go to tech inspection immediately. (While in line, the LA-B-to-V Rider Instructions will be read to you by an event official, as mandated by the BLM.) We will inspect spark arrestors, sound levels, and other street-legal requirements. All motorcycles should be at or below 96 dbA at 20” inches. You must have a license plate and roll chart holder! We do not check tires. No Pass = No Ride! Be prepared to pass before entering the tech inspection area. After completing tech and getting your hand stamped, please roll your motorcycle away from the tech inspection area. Leave room for vehicles to drive through to the back parking lot!

    STEP 3. TOYS FOR TOTS: Put your toy into the receptacles provided and get your toy receipt or have your $10 ready here.

    STEP 4. AMA MEMBERSHIP: AMA membership is no longer mandatory to ride LA-B-to-V. For AMA members, your name will automatically be entered into the national drawings for the Husqvarna and Yamaha motorcycles. AMA memberships are available for $49.

    STEP 5. ENTRY PROCESSING: Pre-Entry-Stand in the line corresponding to your LAST NAME. If you have not prepaid for the toy, turn in your toy receipt, show tech inspection hand stamp, and sign the release form. You will be given your rider wristband, roll chart, map, ride plaque (if ordered) and other important information.

    STEP 6. Then, if you have a GPS, step over to the GPS area to get the tracks downloaded. Make sure ahead of time your GPS tracks are cleared, if necessary, to accept the download. Don’t forget to bring your GPS cable! Only one GPS unit downloaded per rider. You must show tech hand stamp and wristband to receive GPS download.

    STEP 7. LOAD YOUR ROLL CHART. PUT YOUR LA-B-TO-V STICKER ON YOUR NUMBER PLATE OR FRONT FENDER. WEAR YOUR RIDER WRISTBAND THROUGHOUT THE RIDE, INCLUDING AT THE AWARDS

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    RECEPTION SATURDAY NIGHT, OR YOU CANNOT WIN PRIZES.
    STEP 8. READ YOUR RIDERS’ INSTRUCTIONS IN YOUR PACKET BEFORE LEAVING ON THE RIDE! At this time, if

    you haven’t found a riding buddy, go to the “Riding Buddy” sign in the driveway area to hook up with someone.

    STEP 9. Put your small gear bag in the enclosed luggage trailer outside signups or send with your personal support crew. Give your support crew the pink map in your rider packet. It’s for them to follow the route and meet you along the way, if desired.

    STEP 10. GO! Hit the road! Start the ride by 7 a.m. (no later than 8 a.m.). GET FUEL PREFERABLY BEFORE or AS YOU DEPART! Lunch stop is in Ridgecrest. We provide a green map for you that shows different gas stations and fast food places. Eat and gas up quickly and get back on the trail. (There will be a Checkpoint as you are leaving Ridgecrest.) It will take up to 8-10 hours to complete the approximately 217-mile course Friday. Leaps and bailouts are coordinated on the roll charts to the maps supplied. You MUST keep track of TIME and use it to your advantage in order to be in be- fore dark, especially if you want to ride the hard ways. (A map of the Barstow motels is on the back of the lunch/gas map.)

    NOTE:

    OUR SWEEP CREWS ARE PROVIDED AS A COURTESY. They are not mechanics; do not change tires, adjust valves, or refill your oil. They are there to assist, get medical aid, and communicate in case of an emergency. Sweep is definitely not out there to remove you from a hard way course. Our 4WD sweep will help get a broken bike out of the boonies to the nearest road so your own crew can rescue you. Their radios and communication system will make sure your message gets to the appropriate party. Your entry fee does not provide point-to-point towing/flatbed service. Our sweep crews will close portions of the course throughout the day. If you do not heed the sweep’s personnel warnings you will be in the desert after dark. You will be on your own with no one behind you.

    Consult our message board for transportation contacts, to find riding buddies, and important informational updates at www.district37ama.org/forums
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  5. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    outlaws Been here awhile

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    in... but this year it says you have to be a AMA member to particpate??? :huh
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  7. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    so sign up to be an AMA member. :deal


    they fight for our right to ride! :clap
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  8. Ol Man

    Ol Man Long timer Supporter

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    And why aren't you a member?
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    Yellowjacket Long timer

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    It is correct. I put together the flyer with Paul Flanders. YES, this year you DO need to be an AMA member to ride the event.

    It's $49 to join the AMA. Sign up online at:

    americanmotorcyclist.com/membership/join <?xml:namespace prefix = "o" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    click here
    americanmotorcyclist.com/membership/join
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  11. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    i decluttered POST #1. :cob so many BB codes :cry


    i updated some other things as well.


    Beta Motorcycles is the sponsor this year.

    the Orleans code is different. book your room there early because it will sell out.


    book your room at the Ramada in Barstow because that will sell out if it's not already sold out.


    any questions? fell free to post up. :krusty
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    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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  13. greatescape

    greatescape Adventurer

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    Looking for a group to do the "easy" route with, or want to try to put one together. I ride an R1200GS.
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  14. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    as far as i know, there will be an ADVenture route this year. i'll know more in the next few days/weeks.
    EDIT: after July's Dual Sport meeting it was decided that there will be NO adventure bike route. you can ride the regular (easy) route. I don't recommend riding the Hard Way off shoots on anything larger then a 650cc motorcycle.
    but keep in mind, even the Adventure route has a lot of sand. a lot.:deal

    so if you are a little unsure about your sand riding skills, i recommend starting your sand training now.

    WHEN IN DOUBT, GAS IT OUT! stay on the gas and keep the front light (relatively speaking. i know the 1200GS is not 'light')

    there is plenty of areas near L.A. to practice. out by Four Corners (Hwy 58 and Hwy 395 intersection) there is a lot of power line roads that are sandy.
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  15. breakdirt916

    breakdirt916 CA PLATED 94 YZ250 2-STROKE

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    you guys also getting the message that no rooms are available at the ramada inn in barstow?

    I will be booking rooms, ama membership, and signing up for both days by the end of this weekend

    then I gotta get that bike to inside line moto!
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  16. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    The Ramada in Barstow is NOT sold out before the July 1st opening of LAB2V :deal people book it right after the previous year LAB2V.

    you may want to check back with them frequently to see if there are any cancellations.

    but I would highly recommend the Quality Inn across the street. great rooms. Mexican restaurant/bar inside. breakfast served with room ticket (eat fast so as to get on the trail ASAP)

    you should still park your bike at the Ramada with the Boy Scouts :deal
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  17. greatescape

    greatescape Adventurer

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    Thanks for the info.

    So is the order of difficulty from easiest to most technical supposed to be:

    Adventure (easiest)
    Easy (medium)
    Hard (hardest?)

    ?
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  18. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    so I know this discussion is on an ADVenture bike thread on Facebook and it's been discussed here in the past about the different routes....

    so to clarify, there is a NORMAL route with HARD WAY off shoots.

    a few years ago, RawHyde put together an adventure bike route. they didn't last year.

    LAB2V is a dual sport motorcycle ride.
    the definition of normal route with hard route off shoots has been defined by riders on dual sport motorcycles.
    the adventure bike route a few years ago was done by RawHyde. they didn't do it last year. the District 37 AMA has been doing this ride for 32 years.
    if they decide to add an adventure route this year, there will be sand. and highway. and a lot of powerline roads.
    the year RawHyde did the adventure route, District 37 AMA got more complaints about "too much sand" from adventure bikes (street bikes with TKC's) than they've ever had before.
    I will be meeting with the District 37 Dual Sport president next week to discuss.
    I volunteer my time to help.
    I will report back to you guys after the meeting.
    but if there is an adventure route, bring your A Game. it's the desert. there's sand. and rocks. and washouts (BMW broke his swingarm a few years ago).
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  19. greatescape

    greatescape Adventurer

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    Thanks again for the info. I realize now that you're also on the Facebook thread I started on the New Century BMW page.

    Starting to think the 1200 might not be the right tool for this particular adventure, but we'll see...
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  20. Migolito

    Migolito Prognosticator and MotoYogi

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    The 1200 has been around the world in some pretty tuff stuff.
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