lc4 hid light

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  1. Loadedagain

    Loadedagain making chips

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    i know there are a couple of you out there (flanny, curverider?) who converted your lc4 to hid lamps. what heat range did you install 5000?, 8000? is there any difference to the current they draw to fire? do they draw more current than halogen bulbs? any pics of your installs? where did you hide your ballasts?

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  2. GODSPEED

    GODSPEED finger lickin' good

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    you got light envy after riding behind configspace didn't you. :lol3
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  3. Flanny

    Flanny Flanny-it-up!

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    1 - most HID Draw 35W for automotivea applications, regarless of colour temperature
    2 - Mine were 4500K if I recall correctly
    3 - I put my ballasts up on top of the dash, but that was only beacasue I had two....If I had to do it again, I would only install one for the high-beam.

    Sorry no pics...

    ..and oh yeah...I almosty forgot..

    FUCK LOADED!
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  4. Jeff620RXC

    Jeff620RXC Been here awhile

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    I'm think I read they put them in the back of the air box.
    That might have been on the LC4 not the Adventure.
    There might be more room up around the headlight cover (plastic) on the Adventure....I wouldn't think you'd want to constrict the airbox....these LC4 engines need lots of air.
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  5. Loadedagain

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    it was the riding in front of him that did it to me :D
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  6. Loadedagain

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    they're quite small, so i think i will tuck them up under the fairing by all the other electrics.
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  7. Drif10

    Drif10 Accredited Jackass

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    Don't they generate a fair amount of heat? I'm not sure, but I'd check first.
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  8. Loadedagain

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    thats kinda why i posted here. if others have had issues....
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  9. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    Do the HID interfere with the GPS signal receiption?
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  10. Renazco

    Renazco Formerly AKA Boejangles

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    Anywhere in the 4100- 4500 K range is really good after that your getting bluer and from what I've learned the lighting gets poorer.
    Flanny is right, the norm is 35 watts a lot less then Halogen's.
    Make sure you try and keep the ballast away from electronics, just ask Configureationspace about that one.

    I'll be doing a conversion on my 640 next week with a write up if your interested.
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  11. Max Power

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    This might help clear up a few things Here Page 24.
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  12. Loadedagain

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    yes i am. thanks mr jangles.
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  13. Loadedagain

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    thanks mr powers.
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  14. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    Are you guys putting the HID bulb in your existing socket/reflector, or are you converting for a whole new light unit?

    Reason I ask is that I was reading an article about the fashion among certain car customizers to switch bulbs - but the techs claimed that the HID bulb with a very intense point source with a different geometry than the OEM light, gave intense GLARE to others, but didn't usually throw better light on the road for the driver, when not using a reflector specifically intended for the HID bulb.

    Now on a bike, unlike cars, making yourself noticeable to others can often be a bigger consderation than lighting the road, but still I was wondering how you guys are handling the focus issue...

    -Vincent
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  15. Renazco

    Renazco Formerly AKA Boejangles

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    I'm basically replacing the stock bulbs with HID bulbs along with ballasts.
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  16. Caribou Aqua Buddha

    Caribou Aqua Buddha Long timer

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    If those kits use the stock wiring, I would build a relay system to power it. Anything more than say 1 volt of voltage drop, on both sides of circuit combined, then I would say there would be some benefit to using stock wiring just to trip relays, and then use proper size wire straight from battery to relays.
    On conventional lighting, this allows higher wattage bulbs without melting down the stock undersize wiring.
    I have never looked at a KTM's wiring, but if stock wiring goes from battery, to Ign switch, to Hi-Low Switch,then back down handlebar to headlight, all with 20 gauge or so wiring, then there could be some improvement with a relay system.
    I power my relay system off my Accessory Fuse Panel, so it has a "main Fuse" that way. The relay system itself, bolts to a inner fairing bolt, and is grounded at that spot for simplicity, and reducing voltage drop on the ground side. (Stock wiring sometimes has just as long a ground path as the positive side does).
    Anyway here is a pic of the KLR relay kit I made. As I recall it eliminated approx 2 volts of voltage drop, and that is signifigant amount in lighting.
    Of course HID generally runs at a lower wattage, so voltage drop may not be as important.
    Don't forget each beam needs to be thought of as a separete circuit, that is why 2 relays are used. Also you can get a male headlamp socket, to plug into stock headlamp plug, to use stock wiring to trip relays. (relays draw a tiny amount of current, so that is good use for undersized stock wiring).

    http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=1016628
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  17. Loadedagain

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    good idea for adding lamps that draw more power. the difference with hid lamps is they actually draw less power than the factory lights. they are 35 watts compared to 55 watts. the light is a different colour which makes it more useful.
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  18. Loadedagain

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    interference with electronics......... tell me more..... configurationspace? :wave hello?
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  19. Curvy

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    Sorry wasn't me. :nah
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  20. Loadedagain

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    doh!
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