Lets see your lightweight camping setup!!

Discussion in 'Camping Toys' started by 5 speed, Jan 29, 2007.

  1. Pch123

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    Ever had a look at the specialist medicos involved in road racing in Europe who follow racers on their motorbikes with backpacks on at very high speeds. But there I suppose they don't know about the risk and either do Dakar racers. Save me from the do Gooders please.
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  2. Sitheach86

    Sitheach86 Long timer

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    Technically speaking a backpacks weight is on the foot pegs when standing versus higher up on the bike. As well the foot pegs are a pivot point which is less work for the suspension if the weight was strictly on the l rear. A medium or small backpack won't affect my dexterity or movement at all.

    That said it really doesn't matter what people do. Some things works better for others.
  3. SATEX

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    Wrong, mostly. More weight will impact handling, but there is a big difference in how and how much impact, depending on variables. If I'm sitting on the bike, then I agree with you. But my focus is on riding difficult terrain and standing on the pegs. To support your theory, please explain why offroad riders don't sit down through the nasty stuff.

    In my experience, keeping the bike as light as possible even at the expense of loading more weight on myself, is always better than managing a heavy bike with a lighter me.
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  5. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Do you ever see moto cops all over the world riding at high speeds with open faced helmets and no jackets. Does that mean we're all a bunch of morons for wearing armored jackets and full face helmets? Save me from the idiots!
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    sprouty115 Long timer Supporter

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    I've taken several physics classes...but as this is turning into a pissing contest, I'll suffice to say I simply disagree with a blanket statement that all backpacks are dangerous. Certainly I'd prefer to have 4o-lbs mounted low on the bike in saddle bags, rather than my back, but a small backpack with non-life threatening items (clothes, hydration bladder, food, etc.) is hardly any concern and can actually act a cushion if you happen to land on it in a crash (like in a high-side, as I recently did...)
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  7. rockt

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    Umm, pretty small backpack. Probably not going to effect anything whether strapped to body or bike. Can we get back to lightweight camping now?
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  8. klr650lover

    klr650lover n00b

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    I would get a jetboil stove, and then you could have a cup and a stove


    Try to live a day without your car
  9. GravelRider

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    There are a ton of reasons why we stand in technical stuff. It's not all about getting weight off of the seat. You have more control because you can shift your weight around more quickly. Your balls aren't getting smashed into the seat on every bump. As a side effect of this, we raise our center of gravity, but it's worth it for the benefits.

    Regardless, my point against wearing a backpack is mainly one of safety, particularly in the road where you're more likely to crash at higher speeds.
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    Just because they do it doesn't mean there is no additional risk to it. That's asinine reasoning.
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  11. JensEskildsen

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    Wow.... All I wanted was to go camping, and share my experiences with you guys...
    Didnt know I was cheating death the entire trip (and every day commuting) :D

    Theres additional risk riding a bike vs a car, so what was the argument again? :loco
    Theres also threads about how panniers instanly breaks your legs, soft luggage gets stolen, and topboxes ruin the handling... It gets pretty hard to haul some gear or buy groceries without some smartass telling you how stupid you are..:-)

    If its really so dangerous, then surely there would be tons of articles and videos on how a person wearing a backpack got hurt?
    And I know we have all heard noumerous cases where insurancecompanies refused to pay up because the rider was wearing a backpack, putting himelf at risk.. Jesus....Its just a backpack...:fpalm
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  12. JagLite

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    Uh, huh.
    Do it my way or do it wrong? :dunno




    For ultra light weight camping I suggest this riders set up (not mine):







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  13. shrederscott

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    Hi

    Just to add to the backpack thought.

    In 15 years riding off road -ds I have AWAYS worn a backpack...usually a camelback hawg model

    My experience a correctly packed pack INCREASES rider saftey.

    Just last weekend....my buddy did a flip off his bike in very rocky terrain here in Colorado. ....he landed on his back....he was wearing a fox pressure suit with great spinal coverage .....AND....a camelback pack loaded with water and gear.... .he said that the pack helped to absorb the impact....I have had similar positive experiences with my camelback and spinal impacts.

    That said a backpack that has sharp objects in...or that is to large and heavy...these do present a risk to the rider and should be avoided.

    I view my backpack as supplementing my personal protective gear spinal protection.

    Others may have different experiences

    Ride on

    Scott
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  14. Pch123

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    There is a risk to riding a motorcycle. So don't do it. My point is backpacks with mainly lite items in it is not an added risk.
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    This has really turned into a pissing match...let's get back to straps, oil, and tires. :dhorse
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    I honestly didn't mean to sidetrack this thread. I was just trying to help someone out with some advice. I didn't realize this was even a contentious subject. You'd think I told someone not to use Rotella in their bike. :muutt





    And I don't know if I added any pics here before, so here is my setup.

    These particular pictures were from a trip with fairly cold temps (into the 20s F), so a bigger sleeping bag, for a week, including packing all the food that I ate that week. It all fits inside my two 25 liter panniers and my 46 liter top box.

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    I have a two person tent that breaks down to 16" and fits in the pannier (other than the fuel). I also carry clothes, an Alite Monarch chair, bear spray, camp shoes (chuck taylor all stars), 8" tablet, cooking set (GSI Dualist), Katadyn water filter, platypus water bladdders, tool kit with air compressor and extra tire tubes, sleeprite travel cot, and food and booze.

    The only real space-taking splurge I always take is my cot. I used to just sleep on the ground, and had used the small inflatable cots before... But after having slept on the sleeprite cot, I was ruined, and now must always take it! If I'd leave the cot behind and not pack food and booze (fifth of vodka), everything would fit in just the panniers.
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  17. Albie

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    You forgot the STOVES! :nah
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    Tewster2 Long timer Supporter

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  19. nuggets

    nuggets It's all my fault...

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    Guys, what kind of oil should I carry in my backpack?


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    This is my most recent setup... (end of day 5)
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    The big ass tarp was my luxury item.

    I think it was worth it...
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    All packed up... (morning of day 6)
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  20. mouthfulloflake

    mouthfulloflake Not afraid

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    so should I use bungees, Rok straps or Green chili adventure gear straps?