Long Way Up?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by GreyThumper, Aug 22, 2018.

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  1. Hogges

    Hogges Been here awhile

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    The boat taking them along the Colombian coast was awesome. What a pile of rust yet such an adventure and full of life. And visiting communities only accessible by boat was a nice side benefit. It was a great trip to watch even if Mexico was a little weird.
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  2. Traxx

    Traxx Taxation is Theft Supporter

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    Mexico is bigger than some of you think, add that to the fact that even with a quick charge the LiveWire just does not have the range to make that ride in a day.
    Very disappointed in the bus ride, and Mexico has its issues but its not that bad and if it was/is then it is just a matter of contracting with the government/local PD or a security company for an escort similar to when they rode through Mongolia.
  3. daveinva

    daveinva Been here awhile

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    I enjoyed the show. I got to watch it through the eyes of my girlfriend, who doesn't ride and never saw the first two series, and she really enjoyed it-- she got to see two friends love riding and touring, and that helps her understand a little bit why I love riding so much.

    The electric bikes and vehicles-- and the support crews-- didn't turn me off. I knew going into the show that those factors would be inherently limiting. The complaints about them from folks in these parts make me wonder how horse ranchers would have received an 11-part series about the first Model Ts crossing America, or cruise ship captains watching Lindbergh's exploits. I don't believe electric bikes are going to replace ICE bikes anytime soon (unless at the point of a gun-- thanks, regulators!), but I'm also realistic about what they can achieve here in 2020, and I think the bikes-- and the Rivians-- did well enough. Might the show have been more "fun" had the boys been on ICE bikes? Sure, probably; but that was never the show we were advertised.

    As for the production itself, the two things that made me grumble were probably the two things that made everyone grumble. For one, how could Harley-Davidson not have planned to have a third, backup ADV-prepped LiveWire at the ready in the event one failed? Terrible program management from someone who shouldn't be in the business.

    For two, I too find the whole bus thing suspicious. It's not the fake drama aspect of it-- it's reality TV, they're ALL like that-- it's the fact that it makes zero logical sense. It's not as if they didn't know Mexico was potentially dangerous when they planned the trip out-- Mexico's been screwed up for over a decade in a bad way-- yet they didn't pre-plan the bus to be ready when they got to Mexico? For something as overly planned as this show-- hell, they built out charging stations along the way!-- there's simply no way they didn't just forget how they were going to safely get through Mexico. My assumption is either they were so far behind in their production that it would just cost them too much money to delay over 1,000 miles to keep charging the bikes and trucks along the way, or as others have speculated, there was an insurance problem. Either they lost their insurance along the way, or what would be really a shame, they never bothered to buy it to begin with, and just managed to pretend to be surprised that, hey, famous people on motorcycles on a social-media-hyped trip probably shouldn't be riding alone through cartel country.

    I do find it surprising how much of an historical artifact this show already feels like given the changes at Harley-Davidson. Here you have a popular television series showcasing two great friends riding YOUR bikes-- and it's a bike that customers can't buy (an ADV-prepped LiveWire), and may not even be able to buy for much longer (seeing as it was a Levatich pet project, and may not be long for the world under Zeitz). Meanwhile, H-D is coming out with an ACTUAL adventure bike, its first ever, and it gets zero publicity for it from a show about two guys riding H-D bikes on an adventure. What a bittersweet marketing moment for H-D.

    Anyway... I enjoyed the show. I like the guys, the camerawork was phenomenal (I need a drone following me on all my rides from now on!), and in a horrible year when I'm unable to do any kind of tour like Ewan and Charley, I got to live vicariously through their friendship until the days comes when I can have my own riding adventure again.
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  4. TexasMule

    TexasMule Float away ya fairy... Supporter

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    Well said.....
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  5. kalikali

    kalikali Been here awhile

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    They wanted to be low profile, asking for a police escort in a country where in many parts they claim Law Enforcement works with Cartels is not the best idea. I think they had no choice but to drive through it, I wouldnt want to risk my life for a fucken show either.
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  6. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Life is for good friends and great adventures Supporter

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    Not quite as bad as KTM but HD have certainly failed to capitalize on the opportunity from this show.
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    Well, they do have it playing on a big screen in the dealerships at the livewire display area.
  8. Homer GSA

    Homer GSA R1200GSA 2008

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    Just got through the last episode.

    In a world of misery I try to keep upbeat, but yeah, that final episode was pretty poor. Just nothing of real interest.

    Was there a backstory?
  9. Homer GSA

    Homer GSA R1200GSA 2008

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    What about some coyotes? They seem helpful.
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  10. Sleepyc

    Sleepyc ClevelandMoto Podcast, Tune in!

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    Finished the series yesterday. I liked it.
    It was WAY different than the other ones which was cool. I really enjoyed seeing them adjust to riding electrics long distances. That truly added some "adventure" into their ride.

    The way I see it is, no matter how much support they had, how much money and advertisers, these are movie star dudes who don't have to do any of this. I'm sure Ewan could never work a day in his life again and those Star Wars checks will still keep rolling in. And they could disappear into nothing doing insane things and no one would know. Instead they use their celebrity to organize life changing trips for themselves and the crew. They employee these guys while they experience this awesome trip, and then all of us get something out of it as well.

    I'd watch any trips they put out. Great entertainment and education. Seems to be WAY less filtered about what the "scary world" is like. Ie.. not so scary...
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  11. Homer GSA

    Homer GSA R1200GSA 2008

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    Agreed Sleepyc.

    (I automatically typed sleepy joe LOL)

    I would love to see the three riders dump the guys in the cars and just film on their own.

    Loved the electric bike concept and the balls Harley had to go with it.
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  12. TennesseeJed

    TennesseeJed Been here awhile

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    Fair Warning: I'm going to seagull this thread (fly in, squawk loudly, shit on everything, then leave).

    I watched every episode of LWU at my AVD buddy's house so the good news is that I personally didn't pay anything to subsidize this garbage LWU production.

    What an embarrassing shit show. Cuck McGregor and Big Dick Charlie Boorman riding electric harley davison scooters with a 70-120 mile range from Tiera del Fuego to Los Angeles was peak 2020. They depart on said electro-scooters, Claudio on an 883, a pair of wholly irrelevant and meaningless electric trucks, a support conversion van, and a flat bed truck with a generator on it. Jesus Christ. Why not bring an M1A1 Abrams tank too. No ADV rider relates to this sort of trip logistics.

    How long did the trip actually take? 130 days? And they managed to get only 12 or 13 hours of production quality footage. Maybe there's a clue in there somewhere.

    I'll grant that between episode 2+/3 to 8 or 9 there is some actual hommage to ADV riding though it is obviously tightly edited to leave out all of the time where the cast and crew sat around with their thumbs in their asses waiting for the bikes to charge.

    And the social justice pandering. Oh! Let's stop at the organic farming community, now let's stop at the children's orphanage, and here we have the indiginous tribe that is being taught their own language by white people, and let's also talk to the retarded hippies who want this or that world change. At least they didn't belabor too long about the "asylum seekers" at the US/Mexico border who were fleeing violence in there hometown community. [Pro tip: Grounds for asylum do not include fleeing a dangerous community].

    And then, as other have pointed out, they last two episodes were completely limp dick. Who the hell buys and converts a school bus to drive from the Southern border of Mexico to the US on an ADV trip? Well, Cuck Ewan and Big Dick Charlie Boorman do. Who relates to that?

    If LWU was done on a proper motorcycle - BMW, KTM, Triumph, Honda, ect., it could have been a worthy show. Hell, having them ride on shitty 883s would have been 1000 times better than this electric bike, save the world, look at me! My penis is tiny but I'm helping!, crap.

    I do still dream of partying with Charlie Boorman someday. But LWU needs to go in the dumpster bin where it belongs.

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  13. KiLeR650

    KiLeR650 tjoseph is unethical.

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    But did you like the soundtrack?
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    Did you like Ben Hur?
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  15. Homer GSA

    Homer GSA R1200GSA 2008

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    Nah. too many horses for him.
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    One thing I thought was touching was Charlie saying in the last episode that he was grateful to Ewan because he (and their rides together) changed his life. I mean, wasn't he pretty much a builder or a tradie before they did Long Way Round? (Not that there's anything wrong with that). And since then he's been a travel/adventure presenter/brand ambassador/celebrity adventure guide who is apparently as wealthy as his famous father. Not a bad life at all.
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    Mates can be like that, like Steve McQueen helping Mert get his crushed hand working then Mert helping to pioneer prosthetics.
    Much motorcycling is a pay it forward hobby.
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  18. liberpolly

    liberpolly Lazy rider

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    The only sentence that makes sense in the entire post.
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    kalikali Been here awhile

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    Clearly liquored up!

    At any rate, each series had a clearly different flavor. Looking back it all played out quite well for the timing, age and character of the riders. I was a critic of the electric bike at the beginning but realized these old guys (with much respect intended) cant do the same roads in long way round as before. Overall Excellent series, Charlie and Ewan/ producers, thank you for finishing out the series.
    I have to be honest, If there was no "long way round" I would not be on this forum and realistily there would be no Harley Pan Head. Lot of moving parts coming to head soon..
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  20. GreyThumper

    GreyThumper Long timer

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    I still prefer Long Way Round (or maybe it's just sentimentality kicking in). But hey, it's a series about adventure travel during a shitty year where I haven't been riding much, so maybe my standards have gone down and/or I'm desperate for entertainment, but I still enjoyed it.
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