Low Guard/Brake-line Recall 04-05Adventures?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by numbaphive, Dec 3, 2005.

  1. braaap!

    braaap! Long timer Supporter

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    BSTARD, seems like KTM have taken some feedback on board and started to make some changes...

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    on the new 990, two lines run up - no cross-over line! Still that damn dangerous low guard though! :D

    The '06 640 shows the old setup, but I wouldn't be suprised to see the above appear sooner or later... they must still need to clear some parts buckets at Mattinghoffen

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    thanks for the Goodridge info.... this weekend's lil' project
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  2. numbaphive

    numbaphive not quite rite

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    Thanks Meat, but the guards gotta go.

    No recall yet, I'll keep checkin though.
    http://dynamic.dotars.gov.au/recalls/Search_Form.asp?Category=Motorbikes
    NOTE: The recall on the 640 front wheels is for 01,02 and 03 models only, we all knew that right?

    Keep us posted on ya "lil project". Wonder if Goodridge do orange braided lines.....mmmmm:tb
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  3. braaap!

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  4. Trevor S

    Trevor S Cap'n Flatulence !

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    I must admit to being bemused by this.... would you ride a GSX-R1000 in conditions that did not suit it and then blame Suzuki ?

    I can't believe anyone seriosuly thinks the stock guard can handle mud ? I changed it out before I even took delivery of my KTM 640 Adv ... I rode miles of black soil last weekend (had dried out for about 3 hours so we were able to get through, just) with mud nearly the entire thickness of the high guard, the low guard would have been a joke.

    Running the low guard is fine but you HAVE to re-do the brake lines so you can unbolt it as soon as you see mud. In your situation, after I slapped myself in the head for not getting a high guard I would have stopped, removed both front calipers cable tied 'em to the handle bars and taken the guard off before I got into the mud...either that or turned around.

    I really can't see how you can blame KTM ???? :norton Sure the design sucks... and they shoudl have kept the '03 front end... but I have yet to come across a bike that doesn't have something about it that sucks.. and this is pretty minor IMO.
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  5. meat popsicle

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    up to you, but those who bumped their front guard up an inch or so reported zero problems after that.

    and don't you newer fellas have the Excel front rim already?
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  6. numbaphive

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    Everyone's got one(an opinion), and yours has been noted.

    I was going to leave it at that but narrrrrrrrr.

    GSX-R1000
    WTF, Lets keep the apples with the apples and the oranges with the oranges shall we!

    This is the only pic in the brochure with the 640A on the dirt. They say a picture tells a thousand words, is this KTM's way of telling the consumer that in order to ride this particular motorcycle on the dirt you need to mod it to this state?
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    KTM's words from the 2005 brochure.
    "Wherever in the world strange continents, lonely desert expanses or wild
    jungle trails - the KTM 640 Adventure is the ultimate, single cylinder
    travel motorcycle."
    I understand that this is advertising hype, and no I don't believe everything I read, but none of the information I'd seen or been told before I purchased my "dual-sport" bike with 300mm of suspension travel said that it should not be taken on any road that may contain mud. If only I possessed your magnificent level of foresight.....can I have the lotto numbers?

    The reason I started this thread was to let others know that yes it is a problem. Could you please point out the part where I blamed KTM for this? If KTM knows this to be a problem they should sell the bike with either a high guard already installed or an optional kit. If they don't know this to be a problem then we as consumers of their product need to tell em, otherwise nothing will change. If KTM isn't responsible for the stuff they design and sell then who the fuck is? How many years did they hold back on the front wheel recall? How many years will they hold back on this one?

    IMHO the removal at the most critical safety component of you bike, that being BOTH brake calipers in the middle of nowhere is just plain dumb, but that is after all just my opinion.

    I would also be interested in your opinion on these guys.

    And just in case you think your gear or bike isn’t up to the challenge:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29723
    Guess what, its not the gear… :getiton

    Oh yeah, I have dual-sport tyres on me bike and me WRX has a tow bar, folks are dumb where I come from.

    These are great bikes, it's my second KTM and I'd buy another. As I find other problems with the bike I will fix them from my own pocket. I will also let my dealer know so he can then make a choice to pass the infomation onto others, that's entirely up to him.


    Cheers.


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  7. numbaphive

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    We have this rim.
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    As far as I'm aware the problem was with a spoke/hub mismatch, please feel free to correct me if my information's wrong. I know people have had problems with these rims being a bit soft but it's yet to be an issue with me.

    Cheers.
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  8. numbaphive

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    Bike Details; 05 model, Hepco Becker crash bars, MSC steering Damper, Staintune pipe and custom UHF radio mount, Helmet speaker/ear phone
    With the High gaurd set up I used RM250 fork protectors, (I asume Husky fork protectors may fit unmodified)
    I used a single hole KTM brake guide for right hand side cable, I used a second std length brake line run from the brake lever ( run over to the left side steel guide ring then over headlight bracket& down through the single hole cable guide then to fork protector where it is clamped in to position. Havent had any problems even under full compression.
    The brakes (twin Discs) are overkill in the dirt but great for chasing down some sports bikes on tight country roads (brakesliding the rear sideways ito corners scares them)
    The bikes currently being regeared to 16-45, with a 15 tooth front to fit as needed, fitting michelin Baja tyres ( off road only) & rejetted to run the Staintune Unbaffled.
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    Thanks for sharin Boofhead, nice work on the radio mount. :super
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  9. meat popsicle

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    I think the idea was that Behr was too wide for any DS tire to protect it off road, and that obstacles were getting around (so to speak) the tire and denting the rim. sucks! :fitz
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  10. numbaphive

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    Very interesting.
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  11. muddymess

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    I realize this is an old thread but..............
    I just bought a 640 Adventure two weeks ago and this past Sat. I had my front wheel completely lock up within about 20 seconds of hitting red mud.
    I could not believe it!

    High conversion on its way!
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  12. Reformed DucFlogger

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    ...are some folks getting twisted about re: the low guard?

    The bike is sold as a rep of a DESERT RACER. In long fast rides in the desert sand/hard pack a constipated front fender is not an issue for a low guard, but anything blocking heat to the rads is.

    It is not a design fault. The 640 is NOT intended as a dirt bike. How many dirt (vs. Dakar/Baja-style enduro) bikes do you know of come with a 25L gas tank?

    That being said, it would be nice if the factory (vs ktm-sommer) offered a high guard option (maybe cash back credit for low mount kit?) for NA riders who want to treat the bike like a big dirt bike for snotty riding. Just don't bitch about another 'fault' when your high-fender equipped 25L 640 starts to get hot in muddy hot & humid conditions are a long slow clutch-slipping ride.
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