Make Booty Your Favorite! A Death Valley Treasure Hunt with BigWan and LittleWan

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by LittleWan, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    Happy New Year to you and Barb also!
    See, you made it to see another nonsense update (no more talk about how you "might not be around" :nono)
    thanks again and be careful out there (now that I'm on my own bike, 2 up seems so scary!)



    Hey J! :wave
    I took your post and will reply here. Can't get off topic in the DV conditions thread or you get yelled at. :lol3

    Anyway, good to hear from you!
    Yeah, the 990 is a monster. It's especially bad for shoulders. Matt's are shot now.
    It's partially my fault, for all the times I landed on him (and for all the 2 up saves he did).
    Hope you enjoy the 690! You keep all your bones intact too.

    I really loved our 2 up rides, but it is pretty fun to be on my own bike.
    Matt has been talking about giving me his 350, mostly so he can get a 790 or 890 I think.
    I don't know about that. I like having both of us unhurt.
    So we'll see what happens.

    Thanks for checking in! Glad you're still out riding also.
    It's never too late to lift weights, lol. I need to get back on that.

    kelly




    Happy New Year everyone!
    ballarat fireworks:




    Hope everyone gets out to Death Valley and Panamint Springs Resort this year!



    :kumbaya
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  2. Chillis

    Chillis Long timer Supporter

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    Thanks @LittleWan for posting the Defense Mine video.

    Was supposed to take the truck up there last year but everybody warned of it being impossibly difficult short of having a Jeep setup like Wayalife's or more extreme so we didn't go.

    Now I'll take the motorcycle up hopefully soon.

    Thanks for the great content.
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  3. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    You're so welcome!
    I had such a hard time finding info, I'm glad the video was helpful for you.
    And, you're local-ish so you can get out there while the conditions are still good.
    awesome. :thumb


    hey, I kind of remember you posting in the e-bike thread -
    did you ever find a bike?
    I thought of you when we were in DV because it was hard to imagine riding an e-bike there.
    The distances are so vast and with the terrain (steep, loose, deep gravel, etc),
    it seems like e-bikes would just blow thru their batteries.
    Matt thought one possible ride would be from Ballarat to World Beater.
    Even if you smoke your battery, you can coast your way back down.
    But getting up that loose stuff could be a chore on skinny tires. Fat tires would be the way to go.

    Anyway, was just curious where you were thinking of e-bike riding in DV.
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  4. Chillis

    Chillis Long timer Supporter

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    I went for a Honda Monkey instead. For what I want to do there isn't enough range yet on e-bikes.

    In Death Valley a couple of months ago:

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    LittleWan You can do it!

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    Nice choice!
    I totally wanted a Monkey when I saw the 30.6" seat height...
    plus, they are so cute!
    I enjoyed that video of those guys who took Monkeys to Baja:




    So, is it fun? Capable?
    I was a little disappointed that the Monkey is as heavy as it is (231.5lbs).
    How does it feel in the dirt?
    I'm afraid I would destroy one (by crashing).

    I had an Oset 20.0 (kid's electric trials bike) and while it was fun and quiet, it always tried to kill me.
    The little wheels were so sketchy and unstable, I ate more shit on the Oset than on any other bike.
    The Monkey has so many shiny, pretty parts...
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    dano619 Long timer Supporter

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    Thanks Kelly, so glad I found this....always enjoyable...thanks!!
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  7. Chillis

    Chillis Long timer Supporter

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    The Monkey is a blast and very capable. For serious hill climbing you would want to gear down some. You can really give it a beating and it seems like it is indestructible. The caveat being the machine is still maintained.

    It is so low and light that I never consider falling an option.

    Horizontal engine and very little weight up high gives it a flyweight feel.

    You can modify everything on the bike for better performance. If I were knowingly doing long hill climbs, a heavy duty oil pump, clutch cover with paper filter, oil cooler, and thermostat would be on my shopping list to maintain reliability in extreme conditions.

    Top speed for me is 55 mph give or take a few mph depending on conditions.

    If you are light you can expect 5 to maybe 10 more mph additional top end. Also won't need to go crazy on suspension upgrades.

    Gets great range for me(before the big engine mods) easily going 150 miles or better on 1.5 gallons of fuel.

    Air down for more traction and comfort and bumble through just about anything.

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  8. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    dano619! hi!
    thanks for reading :wave


    Thanks, Chillis!
    I really appreciate your review of the monkey, I'm so glad that you love it.
    It sounds super fun and I'm impressed with what it does in DV!
    You definitely made the right choice (over an e-bike).
    Those pictures are great. :D It's so pretty. Even the blinkers are cute.

    We're trying to keep the garage manageable right now, but...
    I'm going to tuck that info away. Monkey, monkey, monkey...


    Edited to add: trigger warning! rosie o'donnel is in this, unfortunately.




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  9. redog1

    redog1 KTM 690R

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    one thing about Death Valley "Make rocks your favorite" :clap:-). I still have your safety cone from Frazier Lookout.:lol3 Thanks for the RR. Always enjoy your rides. Looks like you're enjoying life in the woods. Dot you 2 still have the big bike?
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  10. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    Hi Brien :wave

    No more big bike :cry
    We got to the point where we had 11 bikes in the garage (plus 2 fat tire e-bikes).
    It was a bit much.
    Now Matt has 4 bikes, I have 2 bikes, and we each have a new e-mtb. More manageable.
    Technically, I still have my fat tire e-bike, but it's for sale.

    As mentioned above, there's been talk of me taking the KTM 350 so he can get a 790 or 890.
    But, nothing serious. Not right now.


    Yay! I'm glad you still have your cone!

    (from Gettin' Dirty with the Wans)
    Update 6/18/14: the Oregon Backcountry Discovery Route cone has been found! :clap

    BOOM!

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    It still amazes me that the cone sat there on a stump for 2 YEARS!

    Hope he's been doing his job.
    :D
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    Ladybug Bug Sister Supporter

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    I haven't wanted to open this RR the last few days because I knew it was over and I didn't want it to be. I savored every word. Thanks for taking the time to do this one.

    I'm so impressed with the riding skills you have acquired in the last couple of years. You are amazing. :clap
  12. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    Hi Sherry!

    I'm so glad you enjoyed the update. It was actually pretty fun doing it, once I remembered how things work.
    Sorry, it was the wrong time of year for flowers...but I do have one more burro pic to share.

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    Twinsies!


    Aw, thanks for the kind words. :shog You and everyone else here have been so supportive.
    I am far from amazing, but I'm pretty thrilled to be just adequate.
    I still can't believe they even gave me a MC endorsement! :lol3
    Never thought I'd ever have my own bike. Ever.


    All I can say is that it shows the transformative power of trials riding.
    My current trials bike (2019 Beta Evo 200) has 238 hours on it.
    The one before that (2017 Beta Evo 200) had around 286 hours on it when I sold it.
    There were 3 trials bikes before that one, no hour meters on those, but many, many hours.

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    2019 Evo 200 - my bff (beta friend forever)


    It was only through crashing my butt off, eating shit, and getting covered in bruises that I learned how to ride.

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    I lost count of how many times I landed on my face in our gravel driveway. :rofl
    Definitely not a natural. I even hit our car one time! It was sad.


    Too bad I didn't listen to you guys back in 2009-2013...back when everyone suggested I get my own bike.
    Oh well. At least I caught on eventually. And now I'm one of you!

    :ricky
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    larryboy Stable genius.

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    The cats are doing good at Cerro Gordo.

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    LittleWan You can do it!

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    @larryboy - thanks for the Cerro Gordo cat update!

    I thought I would try and watch Brent's latest video, thinking that there might be more kitties in the video...





    It was my first time watching something from his channel. Holy crap!
    Is this guy for real? He brought his laptop into an abandoned mine so he could play Minecraft?
    And then he goes and drops the computer down a mine shaft?
    The whole idea that he's exploring these old mines, alone, in winter is nuts!

    :loco


    By the way - from the video he shot last week, it looks like it might be a while before anyone can get to the Salt Tram.
    Pretty snowy at Cerro Gordo.

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    screenshot from video ^^



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  15. Critic

    Critic More or less!

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    This is great, what a way to bring in the new year; stumbling onto the wan’s again! I often wonder what you two are up to, but then go brain dead and not pm.
    Cheers Kel
    Your RR are top notch, enjoyable and fun!
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  16. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    Hi Critic!
    Glad you found the update :D - Happy New Year!
    thanks for checking in and saying "hey"
    :wave
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    NSFW basecamp4adv Super Supporter

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    finally got the chance the finish reading where i left off.

    lots of DV ride report out there but it seems LW's version more personal and informative.

    glad we got our DV fix for 2020. hopefully, this coming March the current situation will be a little better.

    thanks Kelly.
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  18. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    Thank you, Joel :D

    As always, I hope that these RRs inspire people to get out and ride DV.
    Especially, the you-know-whos in March. :wink:

    I'm also glad you were able to make a quick visit (RR here)!
    Fingers crossed that Panamint Springs Resort stays in business, and that things are better in the spring.
    Hopefully, CA will get a lot more rain and snow this winter. A super bloom would be fantastic!
    :flug



    Found a few images that I didn't use in the report, but I will throw them here:


    the mighty XT at PSR

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    swansea hill
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    lippincott
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    panamint valley
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    rogers pass
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    near defense mine (looking back at Nadeau/P105)
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    and one more pic of Girl Riley because she's so cute :raabia

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    :D
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    bomose Long timer Supporter

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    I sure would like to take Barb out there. We kept meaning to do it when some friends lived in Hesperia, but never made it. They moved to eastern Oregon now. We'll just have to live vicariously through you and others. We're getting a little long in the tooth now.( 66 ) Still travel on the 990 and I was never as good as Matt, so those roads look a little much for us.
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  20. LittleWan

    LittleWan You can do it!

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    hi David!

    Oh, don't let these recent updates discourage you - we were seeking out the more challenging rides.
    There are still plenty of really cool things that you can get to via pavement and friendlier dirt.
    Death Valley has so much to see, if you two are in the mood for a road trip (later, once things settle down),
    you should definitely come out West with Barb.
    Maybe your friends would come down from OR and meet you in Death Valley?
    Sounds like the perfect place for a reunion. :deal


    Check out this post from the DVNR thread - it has lots of great suggestions and inspiring photos:
    Post#6 Things to see in Death Valley


    Rhyolite, Titus Canyon, Ubehebe Crater, Charcoal kilns...we did all of those earlier in this report (2 up).

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    There are at least a few cabins that you could go visit (Boxcar, Viking Mine, Geologist's...)
    You can even get to Cerro Gordo via Keeler (an easier road than via Swansea).



    Anyway, lots to see! Plenty is 2 up friendly. It's not too late - come on out!

    :ricky