Mapsource/Basecamp powered by Atom processor?

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  1. team ftb

    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

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    Greetings all!!

    So I have been through four, yes four Microsoft Surface Pro computers as my travel computer. I've given up and need a computer that is small and above all reliable for my travels. I found a 10 inch Lenovo that fits the bill for a couple hundred bucks. Only thing is it has a Atomx5-Z8350 Processor. I've never had a PC with this chip or an Atom Chip before. Will this chip be able to run Mapsource/Basecamp without any issues? Will it handle Google Earth ok? I'm not doing any picture or video editing on the thing just using it for traveling on my offroad motorbike.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur Supporter

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    The processor will not be a problem. I've had a couple of 8" Windows Atom tablets that I've run Basecamp and a lot of other apps on. Can be kind of slow on things that require a lot of network bandwidth (like Google Earth).
    What is necessary is 2Gb of RAM.

    My $65 Nuvision tablet worked great for 10 months but now won't charge or power up. The company won't reply to service requests.

    I'm looking at the Surface Go at the moment. I've also been looking into seeing how Windows programs run on an Android tablet running WINE.
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    My ~2011 ASUS notebook has a sticker that says it has an Atom processor.
    I do sometimes run Basecamp and Mapsource on it when I am travelling with no real problems except probably some slowness.

    A few times a year I create a Basecamp backup of the database on my main home computer and shoot it over to the Notebook, so the two computers have the same info.
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    Should work. Make sure you get enough storage.
    What kind of trouble with the Surface devices? Mine have been good to me.
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    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

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    Thanks for the input.

    I just saw the Nuvision yesterday when looking for PC's. That loos like a perfect option for a minimalist choice to utilize basecamp. Have you heard a lot of failures with the Nuvision over time?

    Sadly I've had 2 of my high dollar Surface Pro computers fail quicker than your NuVision.
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    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

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    Motopsychoman stated 2gb RAM needed. The small laptop I was looking at has 4GB so hopefully it will be ok.

    I would like to hear more about the Nuvision tablet and reliability as that's a nice cheap option.

    Well the four surface Pro's I have all gotten new from MSFT have failed. Why? Not from the usual problems of cracked screens or swelling batteries but failure to boot up. Despite all the tech help and troubleshooting from MSFT. Despite loading the MSFT Surface Pro software. The fact that they had to build this to deal with all the Surface issues should have warned me of a potentially high failure rate. I have had three failures to boot, and unfixable, thereby having to be sent back to MSFT. The fourth one I got from warranty, I used for two weeks in the states where I got it, brought it back to Thailand and two weeks later the Touch screen is not responding. Doh!!! That was the final straw so I am abandoning the Surface product line as my experience has been horrid. If it was a $69 NuVision tablet I'd give it some latitude, $1200 for my Surface should have got me more top quality and reliability.

    Hope you have better luck.
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    Can't say that I'd recommend the Nuvision tablet. It replaced an 8" ASUS tablet I had for ~3 years that finally gave up. The Nuvision had a better display, worse WiFi performance, similar app performance, and died in just under 10 months. So, I guess if you want to figure that it cost me less than $7 per month, maybe it wasn't too bad a deal. 8" is a nice size for carrying on the bike.
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    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

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    Yeah after reading the reviews on Amazon there is a decent amount of dissatisfaction in regards to reliability.

    If anyone has any recommendations for a small tablet about 8-inch or so that runs Windows operating system let me know.
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    I'm now using a Lenovo 10" Thinkpad tablet. So far, so good. I carry it in a Pelican 1065 case. I used to have an 8" Windows tablet that was fine running Mapsource but it charged through the micro usb port and that quit working. I couldn't locate another 8" Windows tablet so bought the Lenovo. I carry a bluetooth mouse as it makes using Mapsource (and I presume Basecamp) much easier. I get by with the touchscreen keyboard.
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    I have an RCA Cambio 2-in-1 10.1" Touchscreen Tablet PC, With 2GB from Amazon. The latest on Amazon has a 32GB SSD. I use a 128GB card for extra storage. It runs BaceCamp well but I keep the map details mid level. Only had it a couple of months.
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    Win10 isn't 32gb friendly. Works for a while but then the updates plug it up. My 8" 32gb 2gb ram tablet is now basically useless.
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    I have an Asus 1025c Netbook. It is upgraded to 2 gigs and still running Win 7. (Win 10 can be run but only a very basic driver as the video chip isn't supported by Win10) Screen is 10" and it has a 320 gig hard drive. It restarts in seconds (Literally!) and has great battery life and runs the relevant Garmin Apps. In some cases I have it simulate 1024 by 768 resolution for some apps (1024 by 600 is the actual; resolution.) My main use for it is for doing Garmin updates and route stuff while on trips and syncing my iPod with iTunes. For that it works just fine.

    I keep looking for a decent 1024 by 768 Win 10 Computer that has 10" or so screen but almost anything I have come across doesn't have the storage, the battery life or it costs way more than I care to spend.

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    Broke down and bought a Surface Go (10") just before Xmas. Costco had it for $100 off and free 2nd year warranty. Seems to work fine.

    - Marty
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    Thanks for your responses on the subject. Glad to also hear that Windows 10 does not work efficiently with with less than 32GB once you've had a few updates.

    What I ended up doing is getting an older used Dell Venue 8 Pro.

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    I chose it for two reasons:

    1. 8" size, compact and packable. Much moreso than my Microsoft 12" Surface Pro. The charge brick of the Surface is easily three times larger than the Dell. There does not seem to be much choice if you want a small footprint Laptop/tablet that runs Windows OS. Though the Surface has much better specs than the Dell. Sadly as I mentioned before, four of them failed on me in usage. The Dell with a Bluetooth keyboard, small mouse etc. has a much smaller footprint inside my pack. It fits into my Kriega R15 along with 3 Liter full bladder fine.

    [​IMG]

    I wanted to use the Microsoft Surface as my home PC and for travel. Sadly it never worked out for me.

    2. As mentioned I have had four Microsoft Surface Pro computers fail on me. Just recently I had another new Name brand laptop fail on me within a month due to Keyboard failure. What I have noticed with Phones and computers is as of late they seem to have a shorter service life or a lower assembly quality than in the past. Not fact just my observation. So I picked up the Dell 7 months ago as a test. So far it is still working reliably. it was produced 5 years ago and what I'm curious is if the quality of electronic assembly was a little better back then. It has an early Atom processor, 64gb SSD, with a Micros SD slot that I use a 128 gb card with no issue so far.

    Time will tell if this option is reliable and capable for me.

    Thanks again for everyone's input.


    Edit: I had purchased this laptop back in March when my last Surface Pro failed. It ran Windows and that's all I needed. I failed to realize it was an Atom Processor.
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    Here's hoping you have better luck than I did with the Surface products.
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    Only time will tell. The 10" size isn't perfect but better than the 11.3" or larger ones. Weight is okay. Good thing about the Surface Go is it will charge from the USB-C connector, so I can still charge everything from USB. I went with USB instead of any of the other options: SAE, cigarette lighter, BMW socket...

    Just bought a used, larger tank bag on Ebay that this and my camera will fit comfortably in.
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    Make sure you treat that charging/data micro USB port gently. Mine failed and when I checked on google, many others had the same failure. If I had another, I'd buy one of those magnetic micro USB cables
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    Awesome advice. I was looking at that port as being the Achilles heel of the system. Especially since I will be using dongles for it. Awesome tip on the breakaway magnetic tip, didn't even know about those things. Off to the store to see if I can get them over here, if not Amazon here we come.

    Thanks Jonz for that tip:clap.
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    Since you are the USB for charging on the bike it may be worth looking at the same connector Jonz has suggested for me. Obviously for you it will be USB-C and not Micro USB.

    Best of luck with it!!
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    USB-C is much more robust than micro USB and I doubt it will have the physical issues the micro USB has.

    ..Tom
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