Meet up in Banamichi Sonora in November

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  1. Turkeycreek

    Turkeycreek Gringo Viejo

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    As Cal says, Guaymas is Free-Zone.
    Mark is not on ADV, Work through Noshoes for now, he is working with Judy

    Looks like Noshoes might be heading down to retrieve the bike early in the week with his pick-up. I could ride down to Guaymas to meet but I messed up my back again and don't know how helpful I'd be. (Noshoes would end up looking after me again!) So Max, coordinate with him, he may have help lined up but we are still - I think - waiting on a few bits of info and final word on the insurance policy provisions to take the bike the US.

    I'll pass along everyone's concern and best wishes. Riders are some of the best most caring people.
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    Update on Mark and Judy.
    Mark is still dealing with major pain from the collarbone and pelvic fractures. He is in a hospital in Tucson. He will need surgery to align some parts.
    Judy is doing well, some pain but getting better.

    They had Thanksgiving dinner together at the hospital and want to thank everyone for their thoughts, prayers, good wishes and offers to help.

    Issues with the insurance company continue. Poor performance by the Mexican insurer and zero help from the US broker, AAA. The bike is still in Guaymas but out of the police corralon/impound lot and in the hands of the private towing company at their locked facility. The towing company has been great and very helpful and very protective of the bike.

    We will do a full write-up on the outcome of the insurance situation when it's resolved.

    Mark say he will be attending next year. I better start planning.
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    Best of luck to them and interested in the insurance outcome and what type of insurance they had.
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    From big bend park in texas, what is the quickest, easiest border crossing? Headed to banamichi this spring. Getting a tvip last yr in yuma was a mess i dont want to repeat.
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    Cross at Presidio, just north of BBNP via a nice twisty road ride along the Rio Grande. Crossing is open 24/7 but note that the aduana in Ojinaga is only open M-F 9am-8pm.

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    Thank you
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  7. noshoes

    noshoes soñando con México

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    OK, Marks bike is back in the EUA. I dropped it off at Ironhorse in Tucson today.

    [​IMG]
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    wait a go Noshoes! Bike looks good from this photo....do you have enough straps on it? jaja , I know...professional driver
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    noshoes soñando con México

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    Don't want it to fall down ya know.....¿Where you at nowadays, Cal? ¿Still in MX?
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  10. Cal

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    Freezing my a.. off here in Calgary Came home the first of Dec. but left the bike in Phoenix for a ride down Highway 200 in Feb. By the way I am reading a book you would like its called Coyotes Bicycle.
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    Here's the bike on the flat bed when we met up at KM21 south of Nogales on Mex 15.
    Noshoes and I spent some quality time waiting for the bike.

    Judy is progressing with the collar bone healing up
    Mark is walking a bit with a walker, the pelvis is healing. He will have surgery Friday to re-set his collar bone as it's knitting together a bit off line.
    Both Mark and Judy express their thanks for all the help and best wishes from the folks at the meet up and all the rest here on ADV. Mark says he'll be back.

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    I'll fill in the details on the insurance companies who dropped the ball, acted badly. And who, in the end, came through. But not until a check is in Mark's hand for the repairs - to the bike and both of them.
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    Thanks for update and glad to hear tings are looking better for their health and financial situation!
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    noshoes soñando con México

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    You caught my interest. I had to go buy the book today. Looks like a good read.
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    I finished it a couple nights ago, you will enjoy it! A great book for those interested in the wall and immigration.
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    Here is an update on Mark and Judy, the couple that had the get off in San Carlos the day after the Meet Up here in Banamichi.
    Thankfully, they are booth doing well. Mark is out of re-hab and is home in Tucson recovering from a broken pelvis and collar bone. The collar bone was fusing out of position so surgery was required to fix it. Judy's collar bone break is well mended (or she is just a tough woman who doesn't complain.)
    On the insurance front, they are still doing battle. A Noshoes and I reported, before Christmas we got the bike up to Nogales km21 where we rolled it off the flatbed into Noshoes' pickup for the trip to Iron Horse BMW in Tucson.
    The US broker is AAA. They basically offered no help. The Mexican insurance carrier, El Aguila (the eagle) did a terrible job. They first sent a free-lance adjuster who knew nothing about motorcycles and who changed his story several times. Vicky, our manager here at Los Arcos, spoke to the guy several times and he was no help. Vicky got the bike out of the police impound lot at at a private tow truck company, something the insurance company should have done. Mark had supplemental full coverage with the option to repair in the US. El Aguilar said it was not in force and pushed back. There is no BMW dealer in Hermosillo or elsewhere in Sonora so el Aguilar wanted to send the bike to Ciudad Obregon to a repair guy there but who is not a BMW specialist.

    After much back and forth el Aguilar finally said fine, take the bike to Tucson. I don't have the whole story but Mark says it's still a pesadilla - a nightmare.

    So lessons learned: Both the US broker who sells the policy and the Mexican insurance company who provides the coverage and pays the claims are important. It seems that in this case AAA was happy to wash their hands as soon as the policy was delivered and direct their client to the Mexican company. The Mexican company el Aguilar was, in this case un-professional, un-prepared and unwilling to do their job. This Eagle was more like a zopilote - a turkey buzzard.

    AAA is great to come and jump start your car in your driveway when it won't start but I would recommend buying your Mexican insurance from a company that specializes in this market. They not only sell you a Mexican company's coverage but they add a bunch of other stuff such as legal help, transport of you and your bike and they intercede on your behalf with the carrier. And they don't sell coverage from companies that screw their clients over. That's the big value add of companies like MexAdventure, BajaBound, MotoMex, and the others that get good reviews on IMS and other threads, other forums and sites So read the policy, understand the policy. List the coverages and additional services that are important to you and make sure you are getting what you expect. It's easy to just get the policy on line but they all have phone numbers for questions.

    I'll post more on the insurance outcome when I know. Feel free to comment on any insurance company you have had good or bad experiences with.

    Mark and Judy plan on being here for the next Banamichi Meet Up. It's in the works. Let us know what you want to see as part of it.
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    Thanks for the info re Mark and Judy and the Insurance company, Noshoes and I were just having a PM about this. I have never used the company el Aguilar and now glad.
    Next Banamichi meet up ......same great music and food would do it for me, oh and the Folklorico dancers were a high lite.:rilla
    Is a mine tour available or do I not want to see that?
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    Same as health insurance you never know if what you got is worth a crap until you have to use it.

    Last week was in MX talking to my insurance broker and asked her to compare my underwriter (General de Seguros) with Ace Seguros. Had read a couple reports of satisfactory handling of claims by Ace. She said financial ratings were the same but General had higher customer service ratings. I took that with a grain of salt. Hope I never have to find out but until then I can take some satisfaction from her low rates. Annual policy with comp/collision insured bike value of $10k for $220.

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    I think that was the dance Noshoes was doing, maybe Seth, not the Folkloricos. They are really great.

    Not much to see at the mine but I have not been out there for a little over 2 years. Big leach pads, containment ponds, a tailings pond, generators and crushers. A tunnel and a hole in the ground. I had a good relationship with the previous VP of ops and he took me out there and we went under ground before they reached the final depth. No invites since the ownership changed and we have gotten only polite "we'll check and get back to you" when we have asked about tours. It was a pretty well ordered and clean site under the previous owners and I hope the new owners have kept it up.

    I think I'll avoid El Aguilar too but I blame AAA for not stepping up.
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    Small update from Mark and Judy. Mark is walking with only minor discomfort. Pretty amazing for his age. He'll need another surgery on the shoulder, but not until next year. And the MX insurance, STILL hasn't paid up. :becca
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  20. CoolerKing

    CoolerKing Let's do this!

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    Thanks for the update noshoes. Hope to see everyone at the next Banamichi meet up. El Aguila, (Mark's insurance carrier) is definitely out for my future business. I usually get Qualitas through Lewis and Lewis, but have no experience in claims, so who knows?
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