Metzeler Roadtec 01. Anyone try them yet?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by davidji, Jan 23, 2016.

  1. petertakov

    petertakov Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2012
    Oddometer:
    1,021
    I have almost 11k km on mine and they still feel sticky, intuitive and unnoticeable as they did when new or at least I haven't noticed any difference. They are wearing pretty evenly and haven't "cupped' yet but I am avoiding motorways.
    #61
  2. BayRiderBob

    BayRiderBob Adventurer

    Joined:
    May 15, 2016
    Oddometer:
    30
    Location:
    San Francisco
    Good to hear. So far cannot fault mine either but they don't feel quite as neutral as they did new. Nothing to worry about....yet.
    #62
    petertakov likes this.
  3. FadeToBlack

    FadeToBlack Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2015
    Oddometer:
    107
    Location:
    Somewhere close to my bike
    How many miles on yours?
    #63
  4. BayRiderBob

    BayRiderBob Adventurer

    Joined:
    May 15, 2016
    Oddometer:
    30
    Location:
    San Francisco
    About 4,000 miles on the front and 1,500 on rear. Picked up a big screw on rear.
    #64
  5. FadeToBlack

    FadeToBlack Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2015
    Oddometer:
    107
    Location:
    Somewhere close to my bike
    Not sure if this is the place to ask, but I'll need to replace the tires in the spring and from what I can tell the Roadtecs seems to be the best sport touring option in terms of grip. Am I wrong?
    #65
  6. Jim K.

    Jim K. Long timer

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2011
    Oddometer:
    2,541
    Location:
    New Haven, Ct.
    It's between them & the Michelin Pilot Road 4s. I know that the PR4s are superb, & I've heard & read good things about the Roadtecs. The question for me is....do I stick with a known great tire (PR4) or take a chance on something new (better?) from Metzler? I've been a Metzler fanboy for 40 years, but these Roadtecs will have to be "off the charts" to beat the PR4s. They have the best wet grip I've ever known, near sport tire grip in the dry, & 8 - 10 thousand miles of life. Hard to beat that.
    #66
  7. BayRiderBob

    BayRiderBob Adventurer

    Joined:
    May 15, 2016
    Oddometer:
    30
    Location:
    San Francisco
    The PR4's are better if you do more highway riding and want a bit better life. The Roadtec's will feel like a sport tire, just not as sticky in the dry compared to say a Pilot Power III....which is a brilliant tire but does not last long. If you are more on the touring side of sport touring the PR4's are probably the way to go.....Roadtec's lean towards the sport side much more.
    #67
    charliektm400exc likes this.
  8. ssason

    ssason Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2008
    Oddometer:
    870
    Location:
    Moers, Germany
    I ride the second pair of Angel GT right now with my VFR VTEC. I realy love this tire, sticky from the first corner, even at low temps, but also worth for "knee down" at the local test and training track.

    But, next season i´ll give the Roadtec 01 a try. Why? Just because of the low milleage of the front tire. The last one last a bit less than 5000km :patch That´s milleage i used to know from the rear PilotPower 2CT....
    #68
  9. AllSeasonRider

    AllSeasonRider Wandering, maybe a little lost...

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,830
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    I did not like the PR4s on my bike, and I was a big fan of the PR2s (skipped the 3s). The Roadtecs are much nicer for me.

    My front is starting to cup a little, BUT, I realized they were way low on air (like, 22lbs in the front). No idea how long it was like that, but I'm sure that didn't help things any.
    #69
  10. FadeToBlack

    FadeToBlack Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2015
    Oddometer:
    107
    Location:
    Somewhere close to my bike
    On my bike with the tires that I have, when the front tire is below 30 PSI, the front is bouncy. That's how I know it's time to check the pressure.

    Because it loses air (can't explain it), I have managed to ruin the front tire.

    On the sides there are flat (and I mean flat) areas where it's past the wear marker, while on the center it's got a bit more meat over it. I am not Rossi posting under this username.

    Be careful with the pressures. It can make any tire feel like crap.

    On a different note, has anyone asked Metzeler what the recommended track pressures are? (I use that as a reference point for street use.)

    I know that for a T30 Evo, which is in the same segment, Bridgestone recommends 2.3 front/2.2 rear (BAR).

    Assuming the Metzelers are the same, you really shouldn't ever be going below those pressures.

    Again, I am making an assumption and it would be good to know what the actual track recommended pressures are. Not street, which is more often than not 2.5 (36) front and 2.9 (42) rear.
    #70
  11. AllSeasonRider

    AllSeasonRider Wandering, maybe a little lost...

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,830
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    No idea, but I like to run 32 front, 36 rear.
    #71
  12. FadeToBlack

    FadeToBlack Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2015
    Oddometer:
    107
    Location:
    Somewhere close to my bike
    32 could be low for a sport touring tire like this one. If the bike is heavy, when with you (and gear) on it, more so.

    If it gets bad at a pressure close to what you run, keep it in mind to check the pressure often. Because it can get there quick if it keeps losing air.

    Changing the valves to 90 degree ones would make it easier to check the pressures. The stock ones personally drive me insane.
    #72
  13. ssason

    ssason Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2008
    Oddometer:
    870
    Location:
    Moers, Germany
    Agree...my front wheel is already upgraded with a 90 degree valve, rear will follow with the next tire change. Definetly a upgrade which makes "life" easyer
    #73
  14. FadeToBlack

    FadeToBlack Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2015
    Oddometer:
    107
    Location:
    Somewhere close to my bike
    Oh, how I'm not paying attention to who I'm replying to. . .

    Where did you get your valves?
    #74
  15. ssason

    ssason Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2008
    Oddometer:
    870
    Location:
    Moers, Germany
    at my local bike service, where i by my tires... cost 12€
    #75
    FadeToBlack likes this.
  16. dwenglis

    dwenglis Been here awhile

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Oddometer:
    954
    Location:
    Durham NC aka the Bullcity
    anymore long term updates on this tire?
    #76
  17. AllSeasonRider

    AllSeasonRider Wandering, maybe a little lost...

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Oddometer:
    3,830
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    I'm still working through my first set... not been riding as much as I'd like to.

    I've done a couple canyon runs with them near my new digs in SoCal. It's been hot, so grip is as good as it'll be, but at an aggressive street pace there's not issues with loss of traction.

    I know this was an old reply, but I'm just seeing it now. I have these on a Monster 1100 - ~415 lbs full of gas, so I'm on the very lightest end of the range that anyone would use these on.

    I don't recall specifics, but I ran similar pressures on an Buell S3T (a little heavier) and a Triumph Sprint GT (a little more heavier) with other ST tires and didn't notice any issues. TO be fair, though, I don't play with pressures as much as I probably should, just to see what feels best for a given bike/tire combo.
    #77
  18. deesee

    deesee Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2014
    Oddometer:
    117
    I have a little over 7,300 miles on mine, and will be changing them out tomorrow night. I could squeeze a few more miles out of them, but I like to be prepared for the wanderlust to kick in unannounced, so I will change them.
    I'm right to the wear bars on the rear, with my R1200RT. The front is right at 2/32", and is starting to cup a little. The Rear is squared off, and has a pretty wide flat spot from highway mileage. I run 36-38 front, and 40-42 rear.

    The traction is still good, and the tire is still pretty neutral handling. I've always felt that the handling was a little too neutral. These tires don't like to tip into turns like the Angel GT does. They are happy wherever you lean them, but the don't want to lean. I have had the rear end start to sideslip a little on tight mountain turns lately, but I'm hesitant to blame that on the tire. I've lost a bunch of weight, and my suspension is now over-sprung.

    I've found one huge negative, the reason that I'll be trying a different tire tomorrow. At about 5,000 miles, the tires developed a significant 'howl'. The howl was so bad that I ended up pulling the final drive and driveshaft to make sure that they weren't getting ready to blow. It was that bad. If you've pulled the driveshaft on an RT, you know what a pain in the butt it is. After all the fiddling, I decided that the noise must be coming from the tires. After more contemplation, the noise is loudest right as I get the rear tire off the flat spot. I was NOT convinced that the final drive was ok, at first. This noise isn't a 'singing' like the PR4, FWIW.

    Overall, I think this is a really good tire. I can live with the noise, after spending several days hunting for potential problems in my drivetrain. BUT, the mileage is average (for the fantastic tires that we're riding today.) While the rain handling is as good as anything out there, and the dry handling is better than the PR4 (a tire that I will not go back to) I'm left wanting something different. More is the wrong word, but the turn-in is leaving me un-inspired. I disliked the PR4, and loved the Angel GT. The only weakness I found with that tire was that it was a little fidgety over tar snakes, but it is my favorite so far. If I was getting 10K out of a rear, that would be a different story, but I'm going to try the Roadsmart 3, for now.
    #78
  19. viajero

    viajero Too old to be a nOOb

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2006
    Oddometer:
    11,164
    Location:
    Idaho
    I hope you give us some feedback on the new RS3s after you've put some miles on them.

    I running a set of Bridgestone T30 Evo now, and they're doing fine after a couple of thousand miles, but may go back to the Dunlops, which I also liked.
    #79
  20. dwenglis

    dwenglis Been here awhile

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Oddometer:
    954
    Location:
    Durham NC aka the Bullcity
    +1 on a RS3 review.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    #80