MOD F800/F700/F650 (twin) GS skid plate and top rack

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  1. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Top Racks are now back in stock! Those that were on the list, yours have shipped.

    Thanks and see you out there!
  2. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    I just wrote an elaborate post on anther thread and I thought I would post it here too:

    "Im002e thanks for considering the MOD skid plate.

    We felt it was important to have coverage for the engine, headers, oil filter, oil cooler, oil lines and the cat...in short everything under the bike.

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    The cat can be damaged...probably not a "trip ender".

    The V2 version then carried that over to include a wide variety (8 brands and counting so far) of engine bars allowing the customer to choose what they like the best. There is also a special order version in the works designed specifically to work with the Wunderlich Adventure engine bars.

    We have a lot of "beefy-ness" and some design elements to give our skid plate incredible strength. We haven't really got across the amount of design to every part of the skid plate so I'm going to get a little carried away here...
    (the website will also be updated with all this info shortly as it's something we haven't flaunted...)

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    Every skid plate is completely TIG welded inside and out.

    ..which is no big deal if you don't have good welds...
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    so here's a cross section of one of our welds. I think it speaks for itself.

    The mounts underneath have a lot of thought in them...
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    They are CNC'd and have a ledge all the way around to give 360* support to the material around them. It was the best way we felt to fully countersink the hardware, support the hole cut in the bottom of the plate and give more surface area to the weld up top to make sure it hols up in the long run. This is a very expensive, but thorough way to do it. There are some pics out there of some mangled plates right at these areas on other brands' skid plates.

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    Inside detail of the mounts.

    The CNC'd front bracket is the most compact of any that I have seen. This gives you a strong bracket to take some of the stress off of BMW's break away mounts underneath. There are also no sharp edges within the skid plate to gouge the oil pan if you break it off and it gets pushed in to the oil pan :huh(there are actually pics of that on someones' thread too).

    Lastly there are no welds across the width of the plate in the "line of fire" and the front angle is designed to make it as "easy as possible" :lol3 for the bike to get over taller obstacles if need be.
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    Here is the finished product demonstrating the smoothness of the underside and the beauty of the V2 skid plate.

    We need one of those German mags to do one of their crazy lab tests to see what's what. :lol3

    Like I have said before we designed this skid plate to have the most complete protection and coverage! Definitely designed to go that extra 5%
    if needed and last a long, long time. I'll put it head to head with anything.

    Any comments/questions feel free to post as I'm always keen to hear feedback!"

    The next run of skid plates is just at powder coating now and should be available early this week.

    Thanks for reading!

    Dave
  3. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Another post from the thread above that I thought would be valuable here:

    "Originally Posted by EnderTheX
    Hi Dave!!! I like your plate, I've been looking for a replacement to my BMW one since it is well smashed up but still holding on.

    Does that front mount have a threaded hole? If I recall the bolt going through my BMW plate goes into a riv nut or a welded nut so I don't need to hold it with tools. Edit: I'm talking about the cross bolt, not the ones through the bottom.

    Quick feedback... your price is really high!!! How about giving us poor inmates a good discount :evil


    Hi EnderTheX,

    Thanks for the q and the comment on the plate!

    Our bracket works a little differently:
    It is not tapped on the side so you actually have to use the nut and bolt that comes with the bike's original skid plate (or you might have to get another nut if you no longer have it).

    With our skid plate you mount the bracket first (not completely tightened) then you mount the skid plate and tighten everything. Then remove the skid plate and tighten the bracket securely.
    Re-bolt on the skid plate and you're set.

    So there is one more step in installing it, but once it's done you don't have to touch the bracket again.

    Why did we do it like this?

    In removing the BMW/Touratech skid plate (on many bikes, many times!) while fitting the skid plate with different engine bars I fought (many times) with getting that bolt and the bracket to line up.

    With our skid plate you just remove the two front bolts and it's really easy, fast and accessible. No deep socket or special tools either. I can remove and re-install a skid plate in less than 4 minutes.

    Another point to note is that when you have a tool box installed the weight makes it even harder (on BMW's or ours) to get that bolt lined up.

    Our "price is really high!!!"

    REALLY HIGH? :huh Ouch!

    Here are some prices I dug up:

    BMW/Touratech Enduro $269.99 USD -3mm thick
    Twalcom Motorally $299.99 US
    Twalcom Rally Raid $219.99 -no cat, oil filter/ cooler protection
    Adv-Spec $211.00 US (no VAT) -no cat protection
    Alt-Rider $286.99 US -no cat protection
    Wunderlich Extreme $299.00 US -no oil filter/cooler protection
    Wild@Heart $349.99 US
    Jesse $190.00 + $75.00 US to protect the cat
    SW-Motech $209.99 -no cat protection, 3mm thick
    Utah Sport Cycle $129.99 US (they win but all the hardware is very vulnerable, particularly at the bottom and the side coverage in very minimal)

    Did I miss any?

    MOD V2 Skid Plate $259.99 CAD :deal...at this point the dollar is par

    I don't think one of those has the CNC'd mounts underneath, they are all bent steel or alumimium...that's much cheaper to do.
    Alt-Rider, Wunderlich and Wild@Heart are probably the only ones that can justifiably claim high $$ cause of their construction.
    Some of the others: riveting and bolting?!

    Does any other skid plate have MOD's combination of protection, coverage and high quality construction?

    At this point the price won't be coming down (I'm also a poor inmate!)...in fact it may even have to go up. I think we stack up very well though.

    What do you think?"

    See you out there!

    Dave
  4. loph917

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    i saw one poster state that he had to acquire spacers to install the top rack correctly. just to confirm i'd have to find my own spacers to correct install this rack with the jesses mounting system?

    thanks.
  5. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Hi loph917 and thanks for the question.

    The post you are probably referring to is on the previous page and it's obviously a setup that works:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13393428&postcount=172

    Maybe you could also do a little check for me too. Could you run a straight edge from the top mounting position of the stock handles to the top mounting position on the Jesse rack?

    Is there any gap showing an angle?

    In talking with more of our customers that have Jesse's racks we have found a few different ways of setting it up.
    One customer is using beveled rubber washers from the plumbing department of his hardware store and 60mm full thread bolts. The bolts the come with the MOD Top Rack are (M8) 60mm and 70mm long. They are only partial thread and therefore couldn't be used in that application. I can source 60mm full thread bolts fairly easily if you would like.

    Alternatively I can also supply you with some extra short spacers you could cut down on your own.

    Let me know on the above "straight edge" request though and I may even be able to do something better. :evil

    Please also let me know if you have any other questions.

    Dave
  6. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    One of our customers sent us a pic with the (relatively) new BIG 3 gal. Rotopax mounted on our MOD top rack with the Jeese side rack.

    Here's a couple of pics...

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    He used it on a cross Canada ride. Works, no problem! :clap

    Thanks,

    Dave
  7. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    We have gotten a few emails wondering with some specific questions on the Top racks:

    The seat can be removed easily when the Top rack is in the forward position:

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    Also show in this pic are the Givi mounts installed on the top rack.

    Very solid connection for Givi Top boxes as some have reported here:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13961989&postcount=175
    "I think this rack holds my case tighter than any other toprack I've tried across four bikes and seven years."

    It took some work to get this right. Positioning is also critical and it works no problem two-up with a Givi box mounted and then the whole set up can be slid forward for solo riding.

    KISS top box mounting also opens the doors to lot's of options.

    Width, design and slots are optimized for Giant Loop Great Basin saddlebags giving you multiple options for position.

    Lot's of slots gives options for all sizes of bags to be securely strapped on, also mates perfectly with some rack bags.

    More pics and details (maybe even a video) to show you how this Top rack does everything...

    We are thinking of giving the Top Rack a name...maybe The One. Fore and Aft adjustable position, easy release design for quick and easy mount swapping, Rotopax (top and side), Givi or KISS Top Box and well placed slots for lots of options.

    Thanks!

    Dave
  8. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Happy Holidays everyone!!

    Curious to see if any one out there is running a Trax top box and if I can get the dimensions of the four mounting points and the latch mount?

    Thanks,

    Dave
  9. ScottG

    ScottG Razor Sharp

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    Where's the best place to get the GIVI lug kit for your rack? I just place an order the other day for the rack but need a resource for the Givi lug kit?

    Thanks
  10. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Hi Scott,

    Yes thanks we got your order.

    Any local dealer should be able to get you the Givi MonoKey mounting kit.

    Another alternative is Happy Trail or Alt-Rider both stock them.

    We may have a kit available later this week too...if you can wait.

    I'll let you know.

    Thanks!

    Dave
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  12. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Hi Ben,

    Thanks for the question.

    We haven't heard of any fit issues with the Holan Balanced rear rack. Most manufacturers replicate the height of the stock handles for their racks and this one seems to be like that too.

    The only exceptions we've found so far is Metal Mule and they have a flattened top section instead of the counter-bore. Happy Trail may also be a bit different...I'm going to investigate that. Jesse also requires shorter spacers instead of the long ones, in the back though.

    As for the Tool Box the previous is sold out and the new version is still in development...

    I'll PM you.

    Your bike's looking good by the way :D

    When are you planning to dis-embark?

    Dave
  13. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    We finally got confirmation that the MOD V2 doers fit with Metal Mule engine bars from blackfly911:


    "Hi all,

    For anyone who has Metal Mule crash bars and is on the hunt for a skid plate I have to recommend the V2 plate from Moto Overland.

    I contacted Dave with my inquiry on the V2 just after the new year and after a few emails and pictures, he surmised it would fit but if it didn’t, he would gladly accept a return.

    The plate arrived yesterday and despite the freezing temperature, I couldn't resist but to mount it. It fit like a glove with plenty of clearance around the bars themselves and protection right back to include the cat. The plate is a true piece of quality workmanship and I am extremely happy with both its fit and finish and above all the service Dave provided.

    I'm sure it will be put to good use this spring/summer when I head north to James Bay and points beyond.

    So if you're in the market, check them out!

    Cheers Dave!

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    Thanks blackfly :clap!!

    That brings the total up to 9 different brands of engine bars: Adv-Spec (G-it), Alt-Rider, BMW, Givi, Hepco & Becker, Holan (and Holan Pro), Metal Mule, SW-Motech and Touratech...and then there's the special order only version for Wunderlich's Adventure engine bars:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=614040

    Thanks for all your support and see you out there! :ricky:ricky:ricky

    Dave
  14. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    We are now making specific spacer kits to fit our Top Rack with Jesse and Happy Trail side racks.

    Our stock spacers fit just about everything including:
    stock set-up
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    BMW's Varios
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    and these side racks:
    BMW,
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    SW-Motech Quick-Lock Evo
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    Metal Mules (without the front spacers...shown here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12662792&postcount=141 )
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    Touratech and Holan too.

    The only two that needed something different were the Jeese and Happy Trail...so now we offer those :deal

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    Here is the stock spacers (two on the left) and the Jesse spacer (Happy Trail ones not shown). All CNC'd alu of course...no steel chunks here :puke1
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    Then you can team up the Top Rack with these options:
    Rotopax direct mount (no adapters needed)
    Givi/Kappa Monokey direct mount (no adapters needed)
    KISS DIY Top Box system

    All the details are on the site www.motooverland.com

    Thanks for checkin' it out.

    Dave
  15. Hucker

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    Came home on Thursday night and found this sitting at my door:

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    Install was very easy.

    Side with oil drain:
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    Nice clearance with the Holan Pros:
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    Cat protection:
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    Nice product guys. Thanks for the help Dave!
  16. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    You're bike looks great!!

    Thanks for the compliments and most importantly, glad to hear you're happy with it! :D

    :freaky

    Dave
  17. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    We've found that the Happy Trail side racks are a little different than most.

    Full thread here:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648082

    So with help from The Griz we made up some special spacers.

    Posted by The Griz:

    "So, I have finally gotten around to taking some pics of the MOD (MotoOverland) F800GS top rack installed with the Happy Trails SU side racks for the F800GS. I have to thank Dave at MOD once again for helping me out with getting this to fit. He is awesome. He custom made me some spacer bushings so the the rack would sit correctly on top of the Happy Trails SU side racks!!:clap It fits together perfectly. See, the issue was that the top of the Happy Trails top two mount points (the ones for the forward mounting of the MOD rack) are flush. This is unlike virtually every other luggage rack out there: BMW, Touratech, Hepco Becker, etc. in that that top-most mount point on theirs is recessed. Therefore, for the forward mount point on every other non-Happy Tails rack, you need a longer spacer bushing in order for the top rack to sit flat. Again, however, with the Happy Trail SU side racks, those steel mount points are flush with no recess, therefore a much shorter spacer bushing is needed for the top rack to sit flat.

    Well, like I said, Dave had me measure the gap. Then he fabricated some bushings for me. They work perfectly.

    Sorry for the underexposed pics. It is dark in my garage.


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    Thanks Griz!!

    We will be offering these spacers as well as the Jesse compatible ones as an option with our F800/F650 GS Top Racks. :deal

    Here are the stock spacers (two on the left) and the Jesse spacer (Happy Trail ones not shown). All CNC'd alu of course...no steel chunks here :puke1
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    Thanks for checking it out!

    Dave
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    jamesdemien Been here awhile

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    Here it is mostly mounted.

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    Uh-oh. The spacers dave sent don't fit with the Wolfman pannier rack. It seems there is a similar problem with the Happy Trails. Well it's not really a problem since dave has different size spacers machined.

    I needed some of his special 8mm flat bottom spacers.

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    The standard ones are about 12mm to tall.

    Now, just so everyone is clear, I didn't tell dave about the rack and after I did he offered to mail me some new spacers. So what you're about to see next is not his fault. It would have been much prettier if I could wait a week for things to come in the mail from Canada.

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    I only had one sliver of aluminum hit me in the eye... I smoothed them out with my pad sander...there are some vice marks and whatnot but they work much better than a stack of fender washers.

    If you look real close you can tell they're kind of chewed up but you have to stick your head under the rack to even see it.

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    Anyway, this rack rocks...

    Thanks goes to Dave.


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    If the last spacer in this photo is the 8mm version you may have to go back to the CNC machine... The Wolfman rack is flat on top with no recess. I cut mine off flat at +/- 8mm and they work perfectly.

    Thanks again.
  19. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Glad to see you got it working James!

    The stock spacers are the left and middle ones and smallest spacers on the right in the pic above are for Jesse racks...the Happy Trail (and now Wolfman too) ones aren't shown yet. We had only made up one set for Griz to try before we did a run. Which is on right now actually...

    Super happy to hear riders are liking MOD parts! :D

    Thanks!!

    Dave
  20. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    I was at one of our dealers a couple of days ago and they sell Kolpin fuel packs so I took a closer look.

    It turns out that the Kolpin Pack Mount will bolt directly to our Top Rack using two of the existing holes in the middle. It sets up perfectly! :clap

    So that presents another option for you:
    Kolpin Jr. (1.5 gal.) and their pack mount :deal

    We've also heard that their L bracket fits but we haven't confirmed that yet...

    Thanks for checking it out!!

    Dave