Mongolia to Tajikistan, alone on the Sibirsky Extreme Trail.

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by willmaniac, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. cristiano

    cristiano Been here awhile

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    AFAIK, Turkey stamps your bike on the passport: I think Georgia or Greece can be easier options

    Nice RR!
    cheers
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  2. poppawheelie

    poppawheelie Been here awhile

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    What a great story! What great pictures! I was going to ride the Pamir but never made it. Thanks for posting.
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  3. plumer1kt

    plumer1kt Adventurer

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    vehicles without local licence have a 6 month permission for every 12 months to stay inside greece.
    only if the vehicle belongs to a greek citizen and has foreign licence it can be stored for a period of 6 to 24 months.
    but i have to confirm this,not 100% sure.
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  4. cristiano

    cristiano Been here awhile

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    Yeah, probably true, similar situation in Italy too...
    But actually, how can they check if a vehicle did not left the country and re-entered, as there is no border between EU countries and vehicles are not stamped anywhere? ;-)
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  5. plumer1kt

    plumer1kt Adventurer

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    yes there are "borders".
    eg. if i come to italy i have to register (and pay taxes) my bike if i want to stay there for over 6 months...
    same for you if you come here.
    that applies to all european union
    just check it at the europa.eu
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  6. cristiano

    cristiano Been here awhile

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    I know the rules very well, believe me, and you are right about the rules, but reality can be a bit different.
    What "has to be done" can be different than what "can be done".

    If you come to Italy, nobody will register the entrance of your bike.
    You can leave it, let's say, in my garage, and nobody will know for how long you left it here (during this time I, as Italian, will not be able to legally ride your bike in Italy without your presence).
    If asked about how long your bike stayed in Italy, you can answer that you went, let's say, for a week to Switzerland every 5 months and re-entered each time, and nobody will be able to demonstrate that this is not true and that you left your bike longer than it is allowed.
    Problems can start if you move your personal residence to Italy, but if you keep yours in Greece, it is very easy to do what I wrote and basically nobody cares.
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  7. plumer1kt

    plumer1kt Adventurer

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    i believe you and also always there is a hole in the law... probably this would be an issue with insurance companies and road police checks if you drive the vehicle
    i think we found home for that mighty dr!
    cheers!
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  8. azbrown

    azbrown Been here awhile

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    friggin' awesome...
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  9. cristiano

    cristiano Been here awhile

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    Yeah, sorry, I forgot to write about it: when you will leave your bike in my garage, I will not be able to legally ride it in Italy, as an italian, without your presence.
    In Italy, vehicles can stay without insurance if they stay in closed private places.

    I just edited my previous post to collect a more clear and complete explanation of how it can work ;-)
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  10. motoreiter

    motoreiter Long timer

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    Might be possible, but AFAIK you would have to leave it in a customs warehouse or similar--definitely some paperwork involved.

    You could also leave it with Doug's motocamp in Bulgaria, or I know a place in Milan as well. Whatever the theoretical limits on keeping the bike in the EU, I had a US-plated bike in and out of the EU for nine years until recently and never had a problem. I don't think I was ever even stopped by the police, other than a couple times by Italian police wanting to talk about the bike. :wink:
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  11. Don T

    Don T Bike Addict

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    Thank you for sharing your adventure - I enjoyed tacking along.
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  12. Dan Alexander

    Dan Alexander still alive and well

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    good read, thanks!

    ps: too bad you missed a Buzkashi game .. crazy stuff!!
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  13. MrNemobody

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    Didn't read yet, but I love your pictures!
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  14. willmaniac

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    Always next year !

    Thanks for the advice guys, I like the sound of finishing my 2018 ride in Bulgaria. Maybe even Romania and test the DRZ out on some Romaniacs trails !!

    This is my gps track log of where I went. Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia to Osh, Kyrgyzstan with a short loop down into Tajikistan. From the 2nd of August to the 15th of September 2017.
    Stats !
    Days on the road = 45
    Nights accomodation = 27 camping , 7 homestay & 11 hotels.
    Total distance = 7,913 km
    Average speed = 32 km/hr.
    Riding time = 247 hrs.
    Highest point = 4,784m ( Tajikistan )
    Total climbing = 87,994m
    Flat tyres 6 !!

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  15. DanBarwick

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    Great RR - thanks for sharing!
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  16. Oldfatbeerman

    Oldfatbeerman Enroute to a PUB

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    :clap Thanks Will , awesome stuff !
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  17. barba

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    Woooooooow! Great ride and pictures!
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  18. dnrobertson

    dnrobertson Big Bike, Slow Rider

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    This report is going straight to the Pool Room!

    Great Report and awesome pictures.
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  19. willmaniac

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    Haha YES !

    Thanks for all the support guys, next year I’m now looking at finishing in Romania now .Turkenistan , Iran , Georgia, Turkey, Bulgaria to Romania. Does anyone have a contact for storing bikes ? What is the situation with temp imports ? May not be back for two years .

    Still dreaming of riding across the Mongolian steppe but being home in Australia riding my KTM 300 and Gas Gas trials bikes isn’t so bad

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    Above the Great Ocean Road ,Victoria .

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    NYE camping spot, at midnight we could see fireworks from 5 different towns. Amazing .
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  20. Dutchgit

    Dutchgit Completely clogless

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    Nice !
    For possible contacts on storing the bike you might want to ask in the TET (transeurotrail.org) Facebook group or on the forum on the TET website.
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