Mosko Moto Soft Bags for Offroad & Dualsport

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  1. Ocho NA

    Ocho NA Been here awhile

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    The new v2 bags have two sizes, is this new?

    I was wondering if I should do 35/25 if I have a GSA. Any pics of how it looks from the back?

    Also wondering what’s the largest size of tank bag that works while standing up. I’m ok with little interference.
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    Is there an inmate discount code for Mosko? I need a tool roll.

    Cheers.
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    9F6EC382-36C6-4AFC-BBCD-D509F0C403E4.jpeg Sorry but the 35 is open on this shot. V1 on Touratech racks.
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  4. cblais19

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    Out of curiosity, why were pit zips not used on the Basilisk jacket? It's always nice to have a pair of zips you can keep open that are away from direct rainfall.
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  5. cidi

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    I was at the KTM rally in Breckenridge this past weekend and had a chance to try on their clothing.

    Pitzips were not done for 2 reasons:
    1. They do not vent well when sitting on the bike.
    2. They would bind when you wear the armor underneath, especially when trying to close them.

    Also they tried really hard not to add pockets or zippers in too many places in order to keep the garment from getting too bulky. MM designed the jackets to be opposite from the jackets already on the market they did not want 25 pockets and zippers and flaps.
    It’s a really interesting concept and they know they won’t please everyone.
    Lastly we discussed the need to be able to put the armor somewhere on the bike when you are in a city, waiting for a ferry or run around between border offices. Even just riding from a hotel or campground to get groceries you may not want to add all of the armor under the jacket. So we tested both armors ( the forcefield and the leatt Chest protectors) and we were able to securely fit them in the beaver tails / flaps on the outsides of the Back country 35.
    They took several pictures of the “stashed” armor so look for them on the website in the near future.
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  6. cblais19

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    Funny, I find that when sitting my armpits get more airflow then just about anywhere else when you factor in a small windscreen, although the shoulder area vents might also catch a lot. Admit this might be very different if you're on a dirt bike.

    Interesting point on the armor though, that makes sense? Maybe? Having only used compression suits I don't have the frame of reference for bulkier armor.
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  7. splitdec

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    1.
    Yes you can, moreover they are offering it as a kit for motorcycle with exhaust on the side:
    https://moskomoto.com/collections/motorcycle-luggage/products/backcountry-offset-pannier-kit-v2-0

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    I couldn't find any clear photos, but I am sure in next couple of days someone will post it)


    2.

    I do not own nomad tank bag but I've ridden my friends bike with nomad tank bag on it, and there were no interference at all. But I think that depends on tank size and position as well.
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  8. Blake D

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    Hey Ocho,

    Yes the 25L BC Pannier is a new addition for V2. If you’re concerned with maintaining an equal-width setup, I’d go with the 35/25 (due to the rack offset on the exhaust side). We don’t currently have any photos of a 35/25 combo on a GSA, but should soon enough.

    Any one of our tank bags will fit your GSA just fine without interference while standing.
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  9. Blake D

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    Hey Tony,

    After doing some research, it seems that compatible options for the R1200R are very limited... Judging from photos it looks like the Hepco & Becker racks would work just fine, but I couldn’t confirm this 100% unless I actually got my hands on a set. My only concern is that the vertical bar attaching the bottom tube of the rack to the top tube (with 3 bolts in it) might interfere with mounting.
  10. Blake D

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    No ETA right now. However, V2 kits can be ordered from the US store - we ship worldwide from our Portland fulfillment center.
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  11. Blake D

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    Clean and simple! Love it. Are you on IG? I’ll be posting these for sure.
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  12. Blake D

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    Can’t give any clues just yet!
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    Not at this time. Sorry!
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    Any factory seconds or returns? I’m trying really hard not to buy a cheapie on Amazon...
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    We only sell brand-new products that meet our quality control standards, at the price listed on our website.
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    mkccowboy Been here awhile Supporter

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    I just mounted up the V2 offset kit on my 18 GSA. I prefer the 25l bag on exhaust side. Have to say I love the new BC V2 panniers.
    I’m using the MM Nomad tank bag and have it mounted pretty far forward. No issues standing up and I have the SW Motech risers with a little bar back.
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    Pic of Nomad on 18 GSA
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  18. Sideoff

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    Hi All! And thanks Blake for jumping in and staying on top of all the posts and questions!!

    Last night, on our way home from the KTM Rally in Breckenridge, CO, Ash and I parked our camper at this epic spot in Eastern Utah, just across the Colorado border. We're staying here today, taking advantage of the excellent cell service to catch up on emails and the blog. We've been traveling non-stop for the last 6 weeks - including two weeks off-grid in Black Rock City - so there's a lot to catch up on.

    That trail cutting up the ridge just outside our window is the 150 mile Kokopelli motorcycle trail, which runs from Fruita, CO to Moab. This would be a pretty great spot to hang for a bit, wish we had more time.

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    Backcountry v2.0

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    The Backcountry Pannier v2.0 is finally here!

    We were briefly stocked-out on the prior version before v2.0 was ready, but now it's in stock and shipping. At the moment, v2.0 is only available from our US warehouse. We'll be stocking it in Europe starting sometime next year.

    Major updates include:

    • An aluminum locking bar on the top, so you can lock the bag to the bike and also lock it closed with a compact sliding cable lock.
    • Replaced the rear sewn-on pocket with a new waterproof 'Dry Pocket' system, consisting of a harness and removable drybag that can be mounted on the front or rear of the bag.
    • Created a new custom-molded aluminum G-Clip buckle for the front beavertail compression straps.
    • Added MOLLE webbing, a tool holder, and a neoprene storage pocket for cable locks on the inside of the beavertail.
    • Changed to symmetrical patterns, so either bag can be mounted on either side of the bike.
    • Changed the MOLLE panels from webbing to die-cut hypalon.
    • Now available in the original 35L size, a smaller 25L size, and a 35L/25L offset kit for bikes with asymmetrical pannier racks
    For more info, check out the video below:



    Apparel Videos

    We posted a bunch of new product videos for our apparel. If you're curious about the Basilisk or Deluge, if you're considering switching from integrated armor to separate armor, or if you just want to learn more about technical waterproof fabrics, you can kill some time at the links below.

    Thanks for the videos Pierce Hodges @ VideoKid Productions!

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    Armor Layering vs Integrated Armor



    Fabrics & Waterproof Membranes





    The Road to Colorado

    For our first test-run with the new show truck and trailer (aka the Mosko Flying Circus) we headed to Dolores, Colorado for the annual GS Giants Rally. If you aren't familiar with GS Giants, you can learn more here.

    Our buddy Scott made these cool new backdrops for the booth. At outdoor shows these block the visual noise behind our booth - cars, trailers, generators, trees, shrubbery, the back of someone else's booth, etc. The vinyl backdrops we've been using for that purpose act like huge sails in the wind, so we often have to take them down. The new backdrops should look great at our indoor shows this winter too.

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    Before leaving for GS Giants, JC and I stocked up on everything we need for the new show trailer, like tools, a generator, an air compressor, moving pads, a cooler, a bottle jack, etc.

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    Packing the trailer, we discovered that our 4 show mannequins fit neatly in the two built-in closets that were already installed. Perfect.

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    This is what the Mosko Flying Circus looks like right before its maiden voyage. Two trucks, two trailers, three people, two dogs, and 120 feet of bikes, displays, mannequins, samples, and living quarters. What could possibly go wrong?

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    Just outside Caldwell, ID a driver passing us signaled that something was wrong. I looked in the mirror and saw a bunch of smoke. We pulled over, and saw that two of the rear tires were touching, the third axle was out of alignment, and the suspension hanger had broken off the frame. Shit!

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    JC found a 24 hour welder in Caldwell. We limped to his house and he got us fixed up and back on the road before dark. We spent the night in a Les Schwab parking lot, where we had new tires mounted in the morning.

    Under the trailer, we found a bunch of worn, broken, or nearly broken suspension components. That suspension hanger was just the first piece to break (or actually the second, the first was a shackle at the Desert 100 race in April). We ordered replacement parts on Amazon and had them shipped to our destination.

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    Arriving in Dolores, It was cool to unpack the new trailer and setup the new booth for the first time.

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    The new backdrops look great.

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    There were some rainstorms coming through, so we got ponchos for the mannequins to keep them clean.

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    This was our first time at the GS Giants Rally and we had a total blast. Sales were great, the people were awesome, the location was beautiful, and we even got to sneak out for mountain biking during the day. To our friends at GS Giants: thanks for including us and thanks for all the support. We'll be back next year for sure!

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    Ridgway & Crested Butte

    After GS Giants, we picked up the suspension parts, and our buddy Forrest (who lives in Ridgway) offered to install them. Thanks so much Forest!! We owe you one!

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    We paused in Ridgway for a day to check out some the local trails and visit with Forest on the property he manages just outside of town.

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    The property has a large lake stocked with fat, gullible rainbow trout.

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    Forrest buys old rusted-out horse trailers like this one, refurbishes them, and converts them to kick-ass little portable saunas. He makes the wood stove from a re-purposed beer keg and finishes the interior with wood. After a delicious elk meat dinner (also from the property) we ended the day with a sauna. One day, when we have the space for it, we will definitely want one of these.

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    With the trailer fixed, we headed to the Crested Butte area to catch up on work and do some product testing before the Mosko Meetup in Denver. The trails in Crested Butte are just like, wow.

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    The weather was basically excellent, but every day we had some chilly afternoon rain, which was perfect for the Deluge. The Deluge is by far the coolest little moto rainsuit I've ever seen. It packs tiny, stays totally dry, and hardly feels like anything at all when you're wearing it. After a storm, I was surprised how long I could continue wearing it before I started getting hot.

    Here's a time-lapse of me stashing the Deluge.



    Ash used the new Rak pullover, which she loved, despite the fact that this prototype is several sizes too large for her. The Rak is made from a heavier fabric than the Deluge, which we selected more for touring than trails. Because of that, when the rain stopped, Ash warmed-up noticeably sooner than I did.

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    I've been experimenting with different mounting ideas for the Reckless 10 on my KTM 300 XC-W. Instead of using mounting cleats and the supplied rear connection straps, I've been bolting my R10 directly to the fender. I never go riding without it, so I figured I might as well bolt it down.

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    Second, on the side of the R10, because there's a long reach for the leg connection strap on most dirt bikes, I made two zip tie pass-throughs that completely eliminate any up and down motion in the leg.

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    With the R10 mounted this way, there is absolutely zero movement. I love it. In a future revision maybe we can add some pre-cut mounting holes and some extra cleats for the leg straps. If anyone else has a creative approach for mounting the R10, please share. We're all ears.

    I've been appreciating the large thigh pockets on these Fjallraven pants. They're awesome for holding OHV trail maps. We're adding pockets like these on the new Woodsman pant.

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    Here's a few more riding shots from Crested Butte.

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    Denver Meetup

    After a fun weekend riding and working in Crested Butte, we headed to Denver for a Mosko Meetup at Meta Magazine. ADVrider.com, West38 Moto, and Doubletake Mirror were our co-sponsors.

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    This was the busiest Mosko Meetup so far. We had a great venue with steady traffic, we made some awesome new friends, and Ash and I presented on our favorite topic (international fly-in trips). Sales were enough to pay for the venue, beer/food, and travel, plus everyone who ordered there got a 10% discount and free shipping. We were stoked. Huge thanks to everyone who came! Great meeting you!

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    Black Rock City

    After Denver, we hurried home to Washington to unpack, repack, and drive to Nevada to for our annual Bored Meeting in Black Rock City. Great to see so many Mosko and UNRally folks out on the playa this year. One of you is in this pic, you know who you are :)

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    KTM Rally

    After the Burn, we were home for a few days unpacking and repacking for the annual KTM Rally in Breckenridge, Colorado. We had some new show bikes waiting at home, a KTM 790, Honda 450L, and KTM 250 TPI. We loaded those plus 5 additional booth backdrops into a Uhaul truck, and drove that plus our camper back to Colorado.

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    We arrived in Breckenridge late Thursday and finished setting up in the dark. This is what the booth looks like with the new backdrops and bikes. Since we sell direct and we don't have dealers, our booth is becoming more store-like. The backdrops and dedicated show bikes were another step in that direction. I think materials like metal and wood look cool at temporary shows, where vinyl backdrops, plastic tables, folding chairs, and gridwall displays are the norm. Plus the heavier materials stay put when it gets windy.

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    JC built some cool sample storage boxes from aluminum and plywood. These will protect our bag samples in the trailer, and they'll also work as display tables in the booth.

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    The KTM Rally totally nailed it this year. Perfect weather, happy riders. It's a small event - only 350 attendees - and it always sells out fast. The number of pro-riders, guides, instructors, industry insiders, press reps, and KTM staff that attend this event is kind of nuts. KTM puts on a killer event. Breckenridge was a great spot. Next year it's happening in Idaho.

    Here's something for any long-term moto travelers who use separate armor, or who are considering switching. An armor pressure suit fits nicely in the BC35 beavertail, for those moments when you're tooling around town and don't necessarily want to wear it.

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    Look Familiar?

    I'm addressing this here because we're already getting a bunch of inquiries. A company recently started offering products with notable similarities to products from several other companies including us. This happens all the time with soft goods, especially with successful designs that have been on the market for a few years. We've seen it and we're not bothered. There's at least one other company that we know of (and probably others that we don't) working on something similar. If someone is considering buying one of these, I'd encourage them to make a side-by-side comparison with the original, and make their own judgement on which offers better quality and value. Despite the apparent similarities, there are lots of meaningful differences in design, materials, and construction. We'll keep moving our designs forward as always, and won't lose any sleep over any companies that try to follow. 'Nuff said.

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    New Latches

    We've been experimenting with some different approaches to latching the wedge and frame together. Earlier this year we got some working 3D-printed models of a low-profile, multi-function locking latch that we like, although it was a bit complex and expensive to make. That option is still on the table, but here's another simpler idea we're also experimenting with. It's based on a side-mounted locking pin. 3D printing is so cool!!

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    The Woodsman Pant

    We currently have two versions of the Woodsman in the shop for testing. One is made from a heavier waterproof stretch soft shell (black and blue in the pic below), and the other is made from a lighter-weight non-waterproof stretch material similar to a mountaineering or work pant (brown and grey in the pic below). Both are designed to be worn over-the-boot.

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    Scott, Ash, and I took them to the Gifford for testing. We traded pants mid-way through the ride. Yes that's right: Scott and I traded filthy sweat-soaked pants in the middle of a hot summer trail ride. Such is our commitment to product testing.

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    We decided the heavier waterproof pant is too hot. We'd rather focus on a lighter, less insulating, more breathable material. However we're also experiencing issues with abrasion and heat at the bottom of leg (boot/bike and boot/rocks). We're thinking we'll change the Woodsman to an in-the-boot design, removing some of the leather and making the whole pant lighter and cooler.

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    The next sample will be a non-waterproof, in-the-boot, stretchy, soft-shell pant that works for trail riding and enduro-touring. In wet/cold weather, it will pair easily with a waterproof overpant like the Deluge or Rak.

    Ectotherm Insulation

    The insulating layers are coming along well. We have two new prototypes. Both are currently heated, although we might convert the smaller one to a standard insulated jacket, and only put heating elements in the warmer one.

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    Here's what they look like packed up, compared to three standard heated liner jackets by other companies. Our jackets both have high quality insulation in addition to the heating elements, so they work as a warm layer both on and off the bike.

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    Scott found these cool zipper pulls with a SIM card tool and storage sleeve for international travelers. Yeah it's a little geeky, but still... cool right? Why not? If you don't need it, don't use it.

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    New Office Space

    Things are getting pretty cramped in our current shop, with up to 9 people, several dogs, and a bunch of bikes and mannequins all stuffed into 1,000 sq ft. For telephone calls, when it's warm we go outside. Here we are on a conference call with our buddy Dave Wachs in Bend, getting feedback on the Basilisk riding kit.

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    For private meetings we go down the block to our storage space.

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    Now we're expanding into some additional office space upstairs. The upstairs of our current building is all separate artist studios, three of which recently became available. Two are connected directly to our current space by stairs. We're turning one into a product showroom, one into a meeting room, and one will become the customer service office. As an added bonus, there's even an unfinished deck.

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    Other Stuff

    Andrew is in the middle of a Reckless 40 redesign.

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    We just ordered a batch of custom Voile straps. Giant Loop also stocks these (the Pronghorn straps) and Upshift Online has a cool logoed version as well, so we're not exactly breaking new ground here, but soon you can get your Voile Straps in Mosko blue too :) They're handy for attaching a tool roll, tire tube, rain jacket, or pretty much anything else to your bike.

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    We're also working on some cables for the new locking bar on the Backcountry 2.0. These designs are done, they'll be available sometime this winter.

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    Saying goodbye to our awesome summer intern Jesse, we had a final all-hands Wim Hof in the White Salmon.

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    Next week we're returning to Colorado for our company ride, starting and ending in Grand Junction. Can't wait for that!
  19. cidi

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    It was great seeing and chatting with you at the KTM rally. ( I was the guy who talked about stashing the armor in the Beaver tail when getting off the bike in a town )
    I sure like your gear and hope you consider over the boot pant. They do hide the motorcross boots better when walking around in town or into a restaurant, shop, etc... I have some ideas ...
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    Hey @Sideoff and @easyrider11 check my post on the previous page (or here) of how I mounted my R10. I took a different approach to achieve the same result...as in keeping the mounting straps as short as possible to eliminate/minimize movement of the R10. My loaded R10 currently weighs about 12 lbs and it is solid mounted this way. With the use of the g-hooks on the straps I can very quickly remove the R10 if I want. I'm really digging the setup!

    I will add that the g-hooks (in this post) I'm using are hardened, stamped steel with moderately sharp edges and I can envision them cutting into the rack loops I'm using and/or the R10 straps over the long term. I'd like to source some some aluminum or die-cast g-hooks with smoother edges to replace them...something similar to what is displayed on the new version of the BC35 in your post.
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