I use the 2019/20 Klim Dakar pants and its sturdy/heavy. I prefer it over less substantial pants on tarmac, not based on any rational thinking just the feeling of safety because of sturdiness. Ventilation is sufficient, but it gets hot really quick when standing still. Above 30 degrees Celsius I’m not liking the Klim Dakar. Been eying the Woodsman for just that reason.